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Old 11-26-2018, 12:27 PM   #41
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What is the "Lippert fix"?
The "Lippert fix" on my trailer was to just reweld the spring hanger back onto the frame. They did step up and sent 4 new leaf springs thinking that the originals were put under undue stress.

The correct fix (for my trailer) was what I said in POST #35. In the end, the frames are so lightweight that they really don't have a safety factor built into them.

After recently going through this process, I wish I would have had the welding shop outsource getting custom spring hangers built out of thicker, more robust material. Traveling straight down the road, they are fine; however, any stress from turning and sideloading the tires will put quite a bit of stress on those thin hangers.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:50 PM   #42
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I am going to either weld my own cross member support or purchase the MoRyde cross member supports.

The Lippert fix is to add a cross member support along wit gussets between the support and the frame. There is a PDF file floating around with the details.

I am also thinking about welding a plate on the outside of the hangers to semi box them. This will strengthen the hanger but not do anything for the hanger to frame issues.

Make sure to always inspect carefully before trips, especially if you tend to make sharp turns or have spread axles.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:19 PM   #43
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......The Lippert fix is to add a cross member support along wit gussets between the support and the frame. There is a PDF file floating around with the details........
I have not heard of this fix; however, if you find the PDF, please PM it to me. I will be pursuing this with Lippert as this was not offered in the repair.
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:18 PM   #44
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Please share with the rest of us.
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Old 11-26-2018, 10:10 PM   #45
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Document found!!!

A fellow member reached out and sent me the "LIP Sheet - 0135 revA" from a Heartland owners manual. After searching the internet for the document, it came up on the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration website. Apparently, this issue is known by not only Lippert (who created the document to fix their manufacturing defects) but also by the NHTSA.

Here is the Link to the LIP Sheet - 0135 revA

In my case, the Axle Retro Procedure should have been done to correct the spring hanger tearing off. Today I contacted my local dealer, Forest River and Lippert after I filed a case with the NHTSA. Although Lippert has paid for damages to date, they withheld this document that could have helped the welding shop properly repair my trailer.

MY ADVICE:
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE IF YOU'VE EVER HAD ISSUES WITH YOUR SPRING HANGERS SEPARATING OR FRAME TEARING, REACH OUT TO THE NHTSA, FILE A CLAIM AND THEN NOTIFY LIPPERT, FOREST RIVER AND YOUR DEALER. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT THEY ARE KNOWINGLY CHARGING TOP DOLLAR FOR INFERIOR PRODUCTS THAT PUT US, OUR FAMILIES, OTHER PEOPLE, AND OUR TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AT RISK ON THE ROAD!
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Old 11-26-2018, 11:05 PM   #46
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Thanks, we put a MorRyde indep suspension on our 2015 Trilogy.
We were tired of broken leaf springs.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:49 AM   #47
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Our 2002 Holiday Rambler Presidential had a recall. They welded cross members at two spring and one equalizer locations.
I installed MorRydes Cross members this year on our 2017 38EL as a preventative.
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