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10-30-2013, 11:51 PM
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Cedar Creek 34 RLSA Tires
Hi
We have a 2013 Cedar Creek, the trailer came with Master Tracker 235 / 80R/16''E, max air pres is 80 Lbs. I have already have to replace two of the tires. two different tire shops have given me two totally different option, one shop suggested I install a light truck tire instead of trailer tires the same size that came with the trailer. The other tire shop suggested I try a bigger tire, 235/85R16"G Max air pres 110Lbs
The trailer weight in 12,000 dry
I think the bigger tires are the beat option.
Any thoughts,
Thanks,
Pete
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10-31-2013, 04:38 AM
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Our 2014 CC 34 RLSA came with Goodyear G614 RST - LT235/85 R G.
When I was shopping for a new 5th. wheel and saw that Cedar Creek put the G614 tires on their new units, I was sold. Told me that Cedar Creek valued their customers to put a good tire on their units.
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10-31-2013, 07:16 AM
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The G's are much better suited for your application. There have been many discussions about tires. Proper inflation is the key. With G's, you will only need about 90 psi for your load. You will not be running at max and it will be easier on the tires. The G's are LT tires. There are other brands but be careful. If you get one with an aggressive tread you will be creating side load issues for your wheels, hubs and axles. Be sure they have a highway rib tread pattern.
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10-31-2013, 05:55 PM
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I see you also have the 8 bolt wheels as well, when I ordered our trailer they said I couldn't have the bigger axles.
After a lot of complaining and going up the ladder it did me no good.
since I bought this trailer just over a year ago.
I guess CC didn't value their customers last year.
Thanks for your reply,
Cheers,
Pete
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10-31-2013, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Jensen
I see you also have the 8 bolt wheels as well, when I ordered our trailer they said I couldn't have the bigger axles.
After a lot of complaining and going up the ladder it did me no good.
since I bought this trailer just over a year ago.
I guess CC didn't value their customers last year.
Thanks for your reply,
Cheers,
Pete
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I'm confused...the current 34RLSA specs indicate that 6000# axles are used...the GVWR is 14085# with a 2085# pin weight. I think the 6000# axles are available with either a 6 - 5.5" BC or 8 - 6.5 BC which is the difference that you see, not higher axle capacity.
Dave
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11-01-2013, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Monica
I'm confused...the current 34RLSA specs indicate that 6000# axles are used...the GVWR is 14085# with a 2085# pin weight. I think the 6000# axles are available with either a 6 - 5.5" BC or 8 - 6.5 BC which is the difference that you see, not higher axle capacity.
Dave
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Yep....6K and LRE are standard....The dealer must ordered that RV with the upgraded tires....
I paid $$$$ for the 7K axle and LRG tire upgrade when I ordered my 2014 34RLSA. Also, the spec pin weight is about as "ball park" as the overall height! My dry pin weight before batteries, LPG, and anything loaded in RV was exctly 500lbs over spec. Take anything you read or was told by dealers with a grain of salt!
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11-01-2013, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Jensen
I see you also have the 8 bolt wheels as well, when I ordered our trailer they said I couldn't have the bigger axles.
After a lot of complaining and going up the ladder it did me no good.
since I bought this trailer just over a year ago.
I guess CC didn't value their customers last year.
Thanks for your reply,
Cheers,
Pete
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Sorry, I just looked at my invoice and options, the 7,000# axles and Goodyear tires on my 34 RLSA was an option which I paid $2,320.00 extra. Well worth it.
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11-01-2013, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ret2006
Sorry, I just looked at my invoice and options, the 7,000# axles and Goodyear tires on my 34 RLSA was an option which I paid $2,320.00 extra. Well worth it.
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Interesting...what's the camper's GVWR and CCC with the 7000# axles and LRG tires?
Dave
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11-01-2013, 09:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Monica
Interesting...what's the camper's GVWR and CCC with the 7000# axles and LRG tires?
Dave
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The sticker shows GVWR at 15,500#
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11-01-2013, 10:24 AM
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Being curious, I searched on-line inventory of CC 34RLSA and seen a 2013 with 7000# axles and a GVWR of 15441 at Camping World in Mesa, AZ...probably late 2013 production. Funny that the CC web site doesn't indicate that 7000# axles are a available option on the 34RLSA...out of date I guess.
Dave
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11-01-2013, 11:18 AM
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I've got a 2013 34 RLSA. I also ordered the 7000# axles and GY 614 tires. Before I got it, I called the factory and was told the revised GVWR was 15,500. The sticker on the trailer confirms that.
Ducky, I run my 614's at 105 psi cold (+/- a couple). I am not very close to the GVWR loaded, probably around 14,000. Are you saying I'm running with my tires over-inflated? BTW, I use a TST TPMS on my trailer tires.
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Hurst, Texas
2013 34 RLSA w/ most of the options
2013 Chevy 3500HD, D/A, DRW, 4X4
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11-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeRCreekers
Ducky, I run my 614's at 105 psi cold (+/- a couple). I am not very close to the GVWR loaded, probably around 14,000. Are you saying I'm running with my tires over-inflated? BTW, I use a TST TPMS on my trailer tires.
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This should help: http://www.goodyearrvtires.com/pdfs/rv_inflation.pdf
I also use the TST system. Works great.
The best way to determine load is to weigh each tire. It's just not practical. So I head to a CAT scale and weigh the trailer while hooked up. That is the number I use. So let's say its 13,000 lbs. /4 tires = 3,250
Look on the chart and you will find the correct pressure for the load is 90 rounded up to the 3,300. Some folks add 10% for the Gipper. I do not. With proper inflation I get excellent tire wear, great ride and no bounce.
Concessions:
Rolling resistance is greater but not significantly to justify the negative aspects of over inflation.
My method is not exact. It's an average. I do that because I'm not as picky as I used to be.
The Left (ODS) is heavier than the Right.
The Front axle bears slightly more weight than the rear.
Results: On a hot Summer day cruising down the highway at about 62 mph, my tires inflate to 108 psi and run at 100*F.
Smooth, cool and well within specs.
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11-01-2013, 12:41 PM
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Ducky, on a hot day your tire pressures increase 18 PSI? That seems a bit excessive. You mentioned that's the case on a hot summer day. Have you checked the increase during a 70-80 day? Thanks, Mike
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11-01-2013, 02:26 PM
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Master tracker tires
Pete
I have a 2013 with these tires,can you tell me how they failed?? What pressure did you run in them?????
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11-01-2013, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Jensen
Hi
one shop suggested I install a light truck tire instead of trailer tires the same size that came with the trailer.
Pete
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Pete, did they give you a brand name for this LT tire? I haven't ever seen a 235/80R16 in anything but ST tires in any brand we sell. Just curious.
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11-01-2013, 04:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rattleNsmoke
Ducky, on a hot day your tire pressures increase 18 PSI? That seems a bit excessive. You mentioned that's the case on a hot summer day. Have you checked the increase during a 70-80 day? Thanks, Mike
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Sure did. They go up to 98 psi and run at 95* F on a mostly sunny 80*F day. On a 70*F day they run about 96psi and 90*F.
Anything under 70* they put out a Silver Alert on me cause I'm lost.
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11-01-2013, 04:58 PM
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The LT's are 85's. Goodrich Commercial TA, Michelin XPS Rib and a Cooper that I can't remember the model name for are out there in addition to the G614
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11-01-2013, 05:03 PM
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I'm currently running the Cooper SRM II. Great tire at a good price.
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