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12-13-2020, 09:00 PM
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Cross Member Frame Bracing
I have read several times of Orvan installing bracing cross bracing between the main I-beams. I was wondering how many braces were installed and if a person can tell the difference in any way.
I had assumed that Orvan had welded them in place but then I was parusing a Mor/ryde catalogue today and saw a kit for the installing the bracing. It would be a bolt on kit instead of welding.
It does not look as it would be a difficult job to do.
Any input would be appreciated.
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12-13-2020, 09:22 PM
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Several of us have installed the X Factor or had it installed. It's a pretty straight forward install that takes less than an hour if you just install the center bracing. It does keep the frame from flexing inward and outward during tight turns. I made my own center brace for my old Montana with the LRE suspension, but just went with the store bought version for my Silverback. Some have installed the end two cross braces for the outer spring eye mounts, but I believe the center one is by far the most popular.
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12-13-2020, 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm a little confused by some of the terminology.
On your Silverback, how many cross braces did you install?
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12-13-2020, 09:40 PM
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I installed one ... the center one. The XFactor cross bracing is 2 U channels with flanges welded on each end. There are slotted holes to bolt them together to adjust for varying widths of frames. The two end XFactor cross braces (if you go with a total of three) are designed slightly different to accommodate the existing spring hangars. You also remove the outer spring eye bolts and replace them with what comes in the kit. I believe unless you have a 40+ foot RV that weighs a bunch ... the center XFactor will do the job.
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12-13-2020, 09:47 PM
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OK, I believe what was throwing me as term "X-factor". That bust be a different manufacdturer than Mor/ryde.
I'll take a look at them.
thanks
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12-13-2020, 09:49 PM
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Morryde makes the XFactor. It's just the marketing name.
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12-13-2020, 09:56 PM
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Looks like the design has slightly changed since 2011 when I installed the outer ones on a friends fiver. All 3 mounting points seem to be the same design now.
https://www.rvupgradestore.com/v/vsp...structions.pdf
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12-13-2020, 09:58 PM
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OK, I'll take a closer look.
Thanks for the input.
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12-13-2020, 11:45 PM
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I had our Silverback IK33 in the Amish Family shop in September of this year having some blowout damage repaired. Orvan suggested installing the braces, I believe the cost was somewhere around $300 - $350. I had the kit installed in his shop. They welded 3 pieces of, I think, 2”X2” square tubing. They are welded from the spring hanger on one side to the corresponding hanger on the opposite side.
To tell the truth, I can’t really say I have noticed a difference. I do believe it does help the frame, especially when trying to back into a 90 deg. Spot. I am glad I had it done. Anything that will help the frames on these rigs is a good thing.
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12-14-2020, 04:53 PM
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Here is the "X Factor" from Mor Ryde. I installed one on the center spring mount where the equalizer goes. I installed it when I also installed the
CRE 3000 and the wet bolt kit. From the OP's post I'm not 100% sure this is what they were referring too, but this is a great addition and I may add them to the end spring mounts as well.
https://www.amazon.com/MORryde-UO21-...s%2C208&sr=8-1
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12-14-2020, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex50
I had our Silverback IK33 in the Amish Family shop in September of this year having some blowout damage repaired. Orvan suggested installing the braces, I believe the cost was somewhere around $300 - $350. I had the kit installed in his shop. They welded 3 pieces of, I think, 2”X2” square tubing. They are welded from the spring hanger on one side to the corresponding hanger on the opposite side.
To tell the truth, I can’t really say I have noticed a difference. I do believe it does help the frame, especially when trying to back into a 90 deg. Spot. I am glad I had it done. Anything that will help the frames on these rigs is a good thing.
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Orvan did mine back in November of 2019. He installed the tubing at the spring hanger points (3).
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12-15-2020, 01:11 PM
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Cross bracing
Are there any kits to install cross bracing on torsion axles or would that even be advisable?
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04-23-2021, 06:12 PM
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I realize this is a old post, but on my 2016 FB2, which has E-Z Flex suspension, would the U021-003 X factor be the one to fit this model? hopefully the link will work. Thanks
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg
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04-25-2021, 03:35 PM
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i also had ours done at Amish Family RV, I can tell a differance when towing, 29IK
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04-26-2021, 05:31 AM
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I just finished installing the C Factor on the front and rear besides the center that was already installed. Torn welds on hangers are all to common and are almost impossible to deal with on the road. Hopefully these will help.
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04-26-2021, 07:34 AM
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Typo above, "X" factor above.
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