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Old 03-04-2018, 01:21 PM   #1
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It took 3 years ...

We were in Alamogordo, NM draining our tanks in the RV park before we hit the road again ... bath grey tank valve wouldn't close all the way and never would for the rest of the trip. When we got home, I dropped a belly panel and tried to free up the valve but ended up removing it all together. It would not come out all the way till I realized what was holding it ... I found this piece of flooring plywood jammed in the valve. The factory installers just let it drop in the tank when they were building our fiver. It took 3 years to get just right to block the valve closing ... way to go Forest River assembly line $#@&%% . I know this is just how it goes at the factory, but I wanted to share.
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:36 PM   #2
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Where are the Plastic Discs from the Tanks? Youroo!!
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Old 03-04-2018, 02:38 PM   #3
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Where are the Plastic Discs from the Tanks? Youroo!!
That's funny, I was thinking the exact same thing,
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:00 PM   #4
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I'd guess they fell in in a complete circle and are too big to get sideways in the valve.
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:05 PM   #5
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The half moom plug makes me believe they missed their mark the first time and went back for more!
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:06 PM   #6
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The wood floats....plastic probably sinks to the botom
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:12 PM   #7
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5picker .... they missed their mark on a lot of things on my 16 Silverback. Our first year trying to use the unit was insane. We seldom made a complete trip without something breaking, burning up, or falling off. Sometime into the second year ... things started cooperating and we could hook up without dreading what would be next. Yeah, I know some of you have received "excellent" units out of FR ... mine made up for all your good luck.
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On a positive note, you now know the makeup of your floor.
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:39 PM   #9
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Check out the camera snake videos from inside gray and black tanks on YouTube.
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:32 PM   #10
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5picker .... they missed their mark on a lot of things on my 16 Silverback. Our first year trying to use the unit was insane. We seldom made a complete trip without something breaking, burning up, or falling off. Sometime into the second year ... things started cooperating and we could hook up without dreading what would be next. Yeah, I know some of you have received "excellent" units out of FR ... mine made up for all your good luck.


You know they tell me at the factory that 90% of the people that builds Cedar Creekís is Amish , I guess the other 10% built yours
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:34 PM   #11
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There are "slackers" in every clan ....
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What do you expect from "workers" with a 8th grade education?? No electricy at home but they are the ones hiried to wire our trailers according to "code".

I guess we should expect the problems we get.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:31 PM   #13
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At least it was your gray tank. The plywood was stuck in my black tank. Third trip to camping world they turned the cover on the sewer cap and got a surprise. Then they pulled the toilet off the floor and found it. Plywood also broke the plastic valve and they had to replace that too. Then they told me it was common in new campers which led me to ask, then why did you not figure it out until round 3.
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What do you expect from "workers" with a 8th grade education?? No electricy at home but they are the ones hiried to wire our trailers according to "code".

I guess we should expect the problems we get.
You don't need to be a skilled trade to wire up a TT or 5er (heck, I could do it) because what they do is very limited and repetitive, but you do need to be trained how to do it and have your work checked regularly. Weíre all human and we all make mistakes.

If they are paid piece work as Iíve heard, thatís likely a bigger contributor to poor workmanship.

Many manufacturers have videos on YouTube claiming to show how they build a quality product but all I get out of those videos is that the workers are all in a hurry. I know what happens when I get in a hurry!

Still, it seems many people are fortunate to get a new unit with very few problems. So far, my strategy has been to buy used trailers and let the original owner fix all the problems and take the huge depreciation hit. I have enough knowledge now to be able to get a good sense of whether or not Iím looking at someone elseís unsolved problem.
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Grouchmore I believe your comments are not appropriate on this site and I ask the site administrator to remove your post. These are fellow Americans working to support their families and this no place to bash folks that work very hard. I would ask you to remove but donít believe you will. This forum is for fellow CC folks to get help and assistance. It is apparent you have never met these folks. You might have a different opinion if you did.
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Grouchmore I believe your comments are not appropriate on this site and I ask the site administrator to remove your post. These are fellow Americans working to support their families and this no place to bash folks that work very hard. I would ask you to remove but donít believe you will. This forum is for fellow CC folks to get help and assistance. It is apparent you have never met these folks. You might have a different opinion if you did.
My thoughts exactly!
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:13 PM   #17
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What do you expect from "workers" with a 8th grade education?? No electricy at home but they are the ones hiried to wire our trailers according to "code".



I guess we should expect the problems we get.


I donít see anything wrong with the post, it was a honest answer.
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I donít see anything wrong with the post, it was a honest answer.
I agree. He has a good point, he just didn't say it in the most politically correct way
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I have been in business for 43 years and I know many folks that only had a middle school degree and they have better work habits and work harder than those I know that have MBAís and PHDís. I work all types of folks but donít cut them down because the quality of a product. It just amazes me how our society has no filter between the brain and the fingers to filter comments which should be kept to themselves. Yes I am not happy with the comments but freedom of speech is what we have.
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... but freedom of speech is what we have.

Well, not exactly. This is a privately owned property and the owners get to set the rules for what is and isnít allowed. There is no free speech here.

That said, I actually agree with the rest of your post. There are a lot of times that people need to stop and think before hitting that send key (me included!).
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