New Tow Vehicle

Mac549 · 06-04-2017, 01:28 AM

Purchasing a 2015 Cedar Creek Silverback 31RK GVWR 14,005, hitch weight 2005. My current truck is a 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 Max Trailer about 10,400 towing capacity. I would like to buy a 2016 or 2017 Silverado or a GMC same style in a 2500HD. I have done a lot of research but still not confident enough to make a choice. The 3500 HD SRW trucks are not as popular therefore harder to negotiate with the dealers. Anyone towing similar trailer with GM 2500 HD? Any advice? All would be appreciated

Bobaloo · 06-04-2017, 04:18 AM

My bro in law just bought a leftover 2016 with 8 miles on it for 30,600 dollars out the door. It is a WT with the 6.0 but a crew cab long bed and has a lot of nice features. I really like it and want to pull my txt with it just to see the difference.
Bob

CC75 · 06-04-2017, 07:27 AM

Mac549, you are going to get a lot of opinions as to what truck is best and what you can tow with. To cut to the chase, first determine if your decision is going to be based on what people say you can tow or what the manufacturer publishes maximum towing and payload capacities are.
If you decided you are going to go with manufacturer published numbers, start with payload capacity, and the maximum axle weight stickers on the truck, and not the glossy mag or manufacturer's web site. The numbers on the web sites sometimes do not take into account options. Most of the time the limiting factor will be the payload and not how much the truck can pull. The CC you list, most likely (my opinion and not a fact) exceed a hitch weight of 2800 lbs by the time you have it loaded up. Hitch weight goes up if you load the unit with cast iron cookware and a bunch of tools, and tow with tanks full. The published hitch weight is dry and empty. Use the GVWR as a guide (20 to 25% of GVWR for hitch weight)
Some quotes I have read:
1. You can tow anything on the lot with a diesel 250(0)
2. You won't even know its back there
3. Put airbags on it and it will be just fine

Mr Havercamp · 06-04-2017, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CC75

Mac549, you are going to get a lot of opinions as to what truck is best and what you can tow with. To cut to the chase, first determine if your decision is going to be based on what people say you can tow or what the manufacturer publishes maximum towing and payload capacities are.
If you decided you are going to go with manufacturer published numbers, start with payload capacity, and the maximum axle weight stickers on the truck, and not the glossy mag or manufacturer's web site. The numbers on the web sites sometimes do not take into account options. Most of the time the limiting factor will be the payload and not how much the truck can pull. The CC you list, most likely (my opinion and not a fact) exceed a hitch weight of 2800 lbs by the time you have it loaded up. Hitch weight goes up if you load the unit with cast iron cookware and a bunch of tools, and tow with tanks full. The published hitch weight is dry and empty. Use the GVWR as a guide.
Some quotes I have read:
1. You can tow anything on the lot with a diesel 250(0)
2. You won't even know its back there
3. Put airbags on it and it will be just fine

A GM 2500 HD will have a payload of around 2800 and change for the 6.0 depending on how it's configured. My 2015 double cab long bed is around 2890 going from memory. It will be less with the Duramax.

A pin weight of over 2K IMO would have me looking at the 3500 SRW in the least and probably the dually.

saus · 06-04-2017, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac549

Purchasing a 2015 Cedar Creek Silverback 31RK GVWR 14,005, hitch weight 2005. My current truck is a 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 Max Trailer about 10,400 towing capacity. I would like to buy a 2016 or 2017 Silverado or a GMC same style in a 2500HD. I have done a lot of research but still not confident enough to make a choice. The 3500 HD SRW trucks are not as popular therefore harder to negotiate with the dealers. Anyone towing similar trailer with GM 2500 HD? Any advice? All would be appreciated

My 5er has same GVWR as yours. We tow with a new F-250 6.7 diesel. To be honest, it works great but I wish I had a 350. A dually would be nice too. The added cargo capacity would comforting to have. Good luck.

Jim34RL · 06-04-2017, 08:05 AM

I towing a 2016, 34RL Cedar Creek Hathaway model, with a 2008, 2500HD Dodge Mega Cab and the 6.7L Cummins. I have towed this trailer for over 12,000 road miles with no issues what so ever.

Nascon · 06-04-2017, 08:07 AM

I have a 2013 2500hd 6.0. Once you are loaded, I think you will have about all you want to drive with.

lbrjet · 06-04-2017, 08:31 AM

If you don't mind being over GVWR get the 2500. It is as simple as that. You would not be alone that's for sure.

cody1884 · 06-04-2017, 11:05 AM

A 2500 diesel will pull that 5th wheel just fine. Stopping it in a panic, not so much. You will be over the cargo capacity of a 3/4 ton truck. Cargo capacity includes passengers, fuel, everything else you carry in the truck, weight of hitch and loaded pin weight of the RV. In case of an accident, your insurance may not cover you if they fine you are over your vehicles towing capacity. Is it worth that chance. I would not pull that 5th wheel with anything less than a 1 ton srw. But as stated before, if you do, you will not be alone

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lbrjet · 06-04-2017, 01:17 PM

I highly doubt the 3500 SRW has different brakes than the 2500.

Jim34RL · 06-04-2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cody1884

A 2500 diesel will pull that 5th wheel just fine. Stopping it in a panic, not so much. You will be over the cargo capacity of a 3/4 ton truck. Cargo capacity includes passengers, fuel, everything else you carry in the truck, weight of hitch and loaded pin weight of the RV. In case of an accident, your insurance may not cover you if they fine you are over your vehicles towing capacity. Is it worth that chance. I would not pull that 5th wheel with anything less than a 1 ton srw. But as stated before, if you do, you will not be alone

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My brakes and exhaust brake are the same between a 2500HD and a 3500HD Dodge pick-up truck with the Cummings diesel. So why would stopping distance be any different. In fact the only difference are two small helper spring in the rear spring pack on the 2008 model!

ttanous · 06-04-2017, 03:15 PM

Mac get the trailer life 2017 towing guide. This will help to answer many questions on loading. Since you are interested in Chevrolet and GMC. Then you can compare them with various rear ends and motors if you are thinking gas or diesel. This would be a great starting place as you do your research. I had a 2500 back many many years ago and decided that a 1 ton was just more comfortable in giving a little more capacity capability. I never looked back and have had 3-1 ton dually said and 1-1 ton srw. I went back to duallies just more peace of mind and a stable platform for towing. Only you can decide what you can afford and willing to drive. Just do a lot of research before pulling the trigger. You only want to do that once. Good luck in your search.

Mac549 · 06-04-2017, 11:21 PM

This is a lot of very useful information. I have spent several hours researching a new vehicle and the posts have given me more to consider. Tomorrow I will be out looking at and driving some of the different vehicles in our local market. Right now I am swaying heavily toward a 1 ton Truck. Thanks for the your valuable contributions.

Scrapper · 06-05-2017, 12:54 AM

If you can find one, go with a used single axle semi truck with double cab. Just a suggestion.

Mr Havercamp · 06-05-2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ttanous

Since you are interested in Chevrolet and GMC. Then you can compare them with various rear ends and motors if you are thinking gas or diesel.

Not a lot to compare with GM in regards to gearing. Starting in 14 the 6.0 gas is only available with the 4:10 rear, and the Duramax with the 3:73.

JCDMeyer · 06-05-2017, 06:01 AM

I met a full timer pulling a huge 5th wheel with a 2017 Chevy 3500 dually w/the DuraMax. It was blue.. It was beautiful..
I got a chance to ask him about his truck. He compared it to a previously owned F250 ("road like a log truck"). The Chevy drove excellent.
"I can't believe how much power it has.. The exhaust breaks down the job..."

He also said that the stability going down the road was amazing ; "The big trucks don't blow me around with this rig. I don't worry about that anymore.."

Did I mention that it was blue?

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