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06-18-2019, 04:37 AM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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No More Customer Service
I am stranded in Tennessee because the wheel on my 36CKTS has a crack and will not hold air. I contacted all the RV dealers in the area (5 of them) and none had wheels. Camping World said they could order one, but it would take a couple of weeks. Not practical.
Called Cedar Creek and left message asking if they know where I can get a wheel, and what the specs were for the wheel for the 36CKTS. No response. I then e-mailed Morgan Underwood in Customer relations who responded that Cedar Creek no longer supplies parts directly to customer, must contact my dealer. I told her I am in Tennessee and my dealer is in Maryland, plus my dealer, Chesaco RV, is worthless.
I told Ms. Underwood that all I needed was a place to buy a wheel, if they knew, or to ask someone in the Cedar Creek plant what wheel they are putting on my Cedar Creek so I can go to a wheel store and buy one.
No response.
The reason I bought a Cedar Creek was their renowned customer service. I can no longer recommend Cedar Creek to my friends looking to buy an RV.
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Steven J. Scheinin
2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS (Center Kitchen Three Slides)
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06-18-2019, 05:01 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 53
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Try some local tire places and did you get easy care? If so, call them, they will send someone to you. Good luck..
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06-18-2019, 05:05 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheinin
I am stranded in Tennessee because the wheel on my 36CKTS has a crack and will not hold air. I contacted all the RV dealers in the area (5 of them) and none had wheels. Camping World said they could order one, but it would take a couple of weeks. Not practical.
Called Cedar Creek and left message asking if they know where I can get a wheel, and what the specs were for the wheel for the 36CKTS. No response. I then e-mailed Morgan Underwood in Customer relations who responded that Cedar Creek no longer supplies parts directly to customer, must contact my dealer. I told her I am in Tennessee and my dealer is in Maryland, plus my dealer, Chesaco RV, is worthless.
I told Ms. Underwood that all I needed was a place to buy a wheel, if they knew, or to ask someone in the Cedar Creek plant what wheel they are putting on my Cedar Creek so I can go to a wheel store and buy one.
No response.
The reason I bought a Cedar Creek was their renowned customer service. I can no longer recommend Cedar Creek to my friends looking to buy an RV.
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Try tire dealers too, are there any Discount tire or other tire stores near you?
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06-18-2019, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Mid-Mich
Posts: 507
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If I needed to move, I would use the spare, pray for no flats. I would think any tire dealer could get you one. I assume its a 8 bolt.
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2016 Cedar Creek 38FB2, Hydra Star disc brakes,
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06-18-2019, 06:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Astatula, FL
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First, I'm sorry to hear you're stranded. Also sorry you discovered "RV Customer No Service". Given that RV service quality is typically pretty poor, FR and CC service could be relatively quite good and still be poor relative to other industries. In any case, I'm sure someone with a 36ckts will chime in shortly. In the mean time...
Now to the wheel issue. I'm assuming that you don't have a spare. Looks like it may be underneath the trailer.
Wheels are fairly standard things. The important specs are the rim width and diameter, hub hole size, lug count and spacing. There is offset, too, but that's usually 0 for trailer tires. Trailer wheels are even less variable than car or truck wheels so getting a replacement should be easier. You may not find one that matches the appearance, though.
With 8 lugs, you really only have two choices: 8 on 275mm or 8 on 6.5". The metric is relatively rare, like about 10%. Your tires are likely ST235/85R16G (online spec, check yours) so its 16" diameter. Rim width is most likely 6" but could be 6.5". Armed with the specs, most places that sell tires and/or wheels should be able to help you.
From pics on line, your wheel might look like: https://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-W...LHAXSJ421.html
All of this is based on data from a net search. Your actual mileage may vary.
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06-18-2019, 06:31 AM
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Mopar Guy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Woodstock, CT
Posts: 423
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I would measure the bolt pattern, most likely 8x6.5 and order one from etrailer have it delivered, its costly but its quick. you also could try calling a place that sells equipment trailers like Bri-mar or Big Tex, those dealers usually have mounted spares available
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2019 Grey Wolf 24JS- sold
1998 Holiday Rambler Imperial 41wds
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06-18-2019, 08:25 AM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinalowner
Try tire dealers too, are there any Discount tire or other tire stores near you?
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Went to tire stores, they do not do wheels, only tires. In fact, it was a Goodyear tire store that told me it was not my tire that was leaking, but the wheel. I assumed it was the tire to begin with.
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Steven J. Scheinin
2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS (Center Kitchen Three Slides)
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06-18-2019, 08:31 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,146
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Sorry you are having issues.
If you have to move, use your spare and find a steel wheel with the same bolt pattern for a spare until you can get an aluminum wheel that matches if you so desire.
We have many trailer places (not R/V places) nearby that sell wheels. Hundreds more on line.
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06-18-2019, 08:37 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Northeast Louisiana
Posts: 33,954
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You might can give tractor supply a shot if any nearby. They carry trailer tire/wheel assemblies and sometimes just the wheels. It may can get you out of the bind until you can do better. I don't think you care about if it matches at this point.
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06-18-2019, 08:47 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Northeast Louisiana
Posts: 33,954
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Trailer wheels are fairly standard as per bolt patterns. If you can post a pic of perhaps your cracked one showing the bolt pattern, and the size of the tire, I bet we can get you fixed up?
I can also tell you how to measure it yourself to find out.
https://www.pacifictrailers.com/blog...r-bolt-pattern
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A 72 hour hold in a psych unit is beginning to intrigue me as a potential vacation opportunity.
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06-18-2019, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 713
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No help to you now, but when you are back in MD try Custom Coach on route 40 just inside the beltway. I have good luck with them.
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06-18-2019, 08:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 813
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We needed to replace a busted wheel on our 36 CKTS due to damage while on road, called Tweetys Tire they had one shipped to my location (Flying J) truck stop next day. Was up running and gone in 24 hours or so, really not even enough time to look at all the gift shop LOL.
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Little Lady (Dog)
2014 F350 / 2015 CC 36 CKTS
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06-18-2019, 09:49 AM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
You might can give tractor supply a shot if any nearby. They carry trailer tire/wheel assemblies and sometimes just the wheels. It may can get you out of the bind until you can do better. I don't think you care about if it matches at this point.
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Contacted tractor supply and harbor freight. No wheels.
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Steven J. Scheinin
2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS (Center Kitchen Three Slides)
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06-18-2019, 09:51 AM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lswartz
No help to you now, but when you are back in MD try Custom Coach on route 40 just inside the beltway. I have good luck with them.
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I am a couple miles from them, and that is who I use when I am home.
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Steven J. Scheinin
2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS (Center Kitchen Three Slides)
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06-18-2019, 10:04 AM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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Start with contacting Lionshead:
Lionshead Tire and Wheel
They possibly supplied Cedar Creek with the tires+wheels from the factory. I know they do for a bunch of FR brands.
Next, contact Rickson Tire. They were super helpful as I debated the switch to 17.5" rims + commercial trailer tires. They're actually based out of MD but can possibly ship a new wheel to you:
Rickson Wheel Manufacturing
And finally, contact TrailerTiresAndWheels.com. They are who I actually ordered my trailer wheels + tires from. They were able to ship me 4 new wheels + tires overnight (for surprisingly not a ridiculous amount of money):
http://www.trailertiresandwheels.com
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06-18-2019, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,432
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Not an immediate fix but maybe contact the link below as I believe they supply a lot of wheels and tires to the factories, I remember someone on here had this issue with their Artic Wolf and received help from them.
https://www.lionsheadtireandwheel.com/
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06-18-2019, 10:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,432
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2017 River Stone Legacy 38mb
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2016 Smart for Two on deck
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06-18-2019, 10:48 AM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Start with contacting Lionshead:
Lionshead Tire and Wheel
They possibly supplied Cedar Creek with the tires+wheels from the factory. I know they do for a bunch of FR brands.
Next, contact Rickson Tire. They were super helpful as I debated the switch to 17.5" rims + commercial trailer tires. They're actually based out of MD but can possibly ship a new wheel to you:
Rickson Wheel Manufacturing
And finally, contact TrailerTiresAndWheels.com. They are who I actually ordered my trailer wheels + tires from. They were able to ship me 4 new wheels + tires overnight (for surprisingly not a ridiculous amount of money):
http://www.trailertiresandwheels.com
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Thank you. I found a local hub cap dealer who sold me the wheel 16" 8 lug 6.5
for $35.00 plus $10.00 mounting and balancing. The wheel probably came from a junk yard.
It appears that the wheel is not standard, as I found other places that sold wheels, but only 5, 6, and 7 lugs.
I am very disappointed in Cedar Creek for not helping me out.
Thank you all for your help.
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Steven J. Scheinin
2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS (Center Kitchen Three Slides)
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06-18-2019, 01:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Southern MD
Posts: 282
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Steve,
It IS Lions Head Tire & Wheel....I should know, they recently supplied me a new wheel for my CC 2019 34RL2.
Send me a PM if you would like a POC. I have that information.
Are you a CCRVOC member? That's the route I took when I had to replace my leaky wheel on my brand new trailer.
Mike
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2019 Cedar Creek 34RL2 w/disc brakes
2017 GMC 3500 D/A, DRW, 40Gal Aux Tank
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06-18-2019, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Deerfield, WI
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheinin
Went to tire stores, they do not do wheels, only tires. In fact, it was a Goodyear tire store that told me it was not my tire that was leaking, but the wheel. I assumed it was the tire to begin with.
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Discount Tire definitely does wheels. They try to sell me new ones every time go there.
You could also do a Google search for trailer supply businesses in your area. Also search just for wheels. In my area (Madison, WI) there are both trailer supply houses that carry wheels, and companies that specialize in just wheels.
Good luck.
Rick
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