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Old 08-31-2020, 11:01 PM   #1
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Orvan Fixes Cedar Creeks

For those of you who have always wondered what Orvan can find or what he fixes on these cedar creeks, here are photos of my 5 page invoice from his completed work on my 2019 34rl2 cedar creek. I took it to him last July, before the year warranty ran out, so he could put on a new roof and he found other things that needed attention.Click image for larger version

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Old 09-01-2020, 10:21 AM   #2
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We just left Orvans last week and our simple 3 item list looked just like your 5 pages when he finished the inspection. I didn't know things were broken until he pointed it out. Go Orvan !
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It is great that Orvan does such good work. Sad part is the Hi End Cedar Creek seems to have dropped in quality to an entry level trailer in many aspects.
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It is great that Orvan does such good work. Sad part is the Hi End Cedar Creek seems to have dropped in quality to an entry level trailer in many aspects.


They are all junk.
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They are all junk.
And yet here you are
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Old 09-04-2020, 07:16 PM   #6
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Orvan is wonderful. He is thorough and honest. The things is asked him to add which weren't warranty work were very priced fairly. He got an incredible amount of work done in the 7 hours he had my rig. Is booked a night in a hotel "just in case" but didn't need it.
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:57 AM   #7
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They are all junk.


Whatís sad is, you are pretty much correct. The more you really poke around these things and really start opening them up, you quickly realize they are put together horribly and corners are cut everywhere. They all look good from the outside, itís whatís underneath that most people donít see.
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Old 09-05-2020, 06:32 AM   #8
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It’s an RV, not a stick-built house. It is going to have issues. Heck, even brand-new stick-built houses have issues. You fix ‘em yourself or get warranty repairs and move on.

If someone is not into overcoming challenges, then every aspect of camping is going to be complaint-worthy rather than solution-eligible.

The difference between externalizing and internalizing is the difference between “I was victimized by him,” and “What can I do to ensure a better outcome next time?” I always encouraged my students to internalize. Internalizers tend to be more successful in their endeavors. That doesn’t mean never complain, just that any complaining should be aimed at obtaining better outcomes next time, and not at casting blame, throwing out general insults, or revenge.

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I complained to my dealer about numerous bubbles under my roof and was assured that it was not out of the ordinary and would have no ill effect. Even brought it up in this forum years ago, not much comment.
Surprised the factory paid for a complete roof repair. Orvan seems to get whatever he asks. To be fair, I haven't had any trouble from the bubbles in the past 6 years.

I did watch them putting on the roofs from the office balcony at the CC factory. It all depends on how well they spread the adhesive and then how well they press the "rubber" down after they pull it across. They entire process only takes about 20-30 minutes. They move at a run at everything they do.
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Folks need to remember that a really well built RV is a very heavy RV. I would agree they do some really shoddy things during construction, but it's usually done in places that are generally not seen. Like using a chain saw to cut a hole for a few wires to pass through is my favorite, but if they built these units like most of us think they should we'd all probably need a Class 8 tractor to pull them with. Cost and Weight are their targets so it is what it is. You just need to go into RVs with your eyes wide open and expect the unexpected. I'm always fixing something, even some of the mods that Orvan did didn't go as expected, but he is aware and has changed the way he does the gas lifts on the front storage door for example. He sent me new parts so I can correct my gas lift install. It's always something.
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I complained to my dealer about numerous bubbles under my roof and was assured that it was not out of the ordinary and would have no ill effect. Even brought it up in this forum years ago, not much comment.
Surprised the factory paid for a complete roof repair. Orvan seems to get whatever he asks. To be fair, I haven't had any trouble from the bubbles in the past 6 years.

I did watch them putting on the roofs from the office balcony at the CC factory. It all depends on how well they spread the adhesive and then how well they press the "rubber" down after they pull it across. They entire process only takes about 20-30 minutes. They move at a run at everything they do.


My dealer said it was normal. I then sent photos to Cedar creek and they offered to replace the roof and it was suggested by them to get the work done by Orvan. It is normal for the roof joints have a little bubble affect. The issue was what they call finger bubbles coming off of that. [ATTACH]
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Wow yeah I would not have been happy with a roof that was like that.
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Old 09-14-2020, 08:36 PM   #13
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True, that are put together very quickly and cheaply. Still love them though.
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