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Old 08-16-2020, 01:25 PM   #1
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I am looking at getting a different pin box for my 2013 silverback 35qb4. It seems the sticker that has the ID on it has been removed. Can anyone help me out with IDing what pin box it is? The GVWR is 15,500. I am looking at the flex air pin boxes. I just need to know if I need the M15 or L05 version.
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Old 08-17-2020, 10:07 AM   #2
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If I remember correctly when I was looking and replacing my KING Pin Box on my old Cougar to a TrailAir king pin box. You needed to take measurements of the straight king pin box to determine the correct TrailAir king pin box to use.

Here is a page from etrailer.com on how to determine the correct box for your needs.
https://www.etrailer.com/faq-measuri...l-pin-box.aspx

This would than identify what box was on your trailer such as my Cougar had a Lippert 1621 pin box. I than ordered a TrailAir king pin box that matched the Lippert 1621 box. The TrailAir king pin box fit-up correctly and worked great on the Cougar.
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Old 08-17-2020, 10:45 AM   #3
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Thanks, I went out and did the measurements. Turns out, I have a 1716 pin box and lippert doesnít make the flex air model for that style.
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Old 08-26-2020, 06:36 PM   #4
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Try a Mor Ryde. You will be happy without that leaky air bag to deal with.
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I was looking at those, because I do have some chucking but they didn’t seem to have any impact cushioning. The whole reason I am going this route is my frame actually cracked and separated up front. Massive repair but it has been welded and put back together. I’m just trying to possibly prevent it from happening again.
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Old 08-26-2020, 06:47 PM   #6
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Old 08-26-2020, 08:21 PM   #7
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I was looking at those, because I do have some chucking but they didnít seem to have any impact cushioning. The whole reason I am going this route is my frame actually cracked and separated up front. Massive repair but it has been welded and put back together. Iím just trying to possibly prevent it from happening again.
For what it's worth a Trail Aire only moves up and down about 1-1 1/2". I don't know how much that really helps.
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Old 08-27-2020, 06:01 AM   #8
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Pin box number

Iím using the flex air and itís very good. Almost zero feeling of chucking. Iím running about 65 psi. The flex air has like the trail air airbag plus the morryde type flex at the bottom.

Just curious how did you find the frame cracking problem?
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:02 AM   #9
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I noticed the pin box flexing up into the nose of the trailer. It would move about 4-5 inches between when it was disconnected and hooked up to the truck. Also, there was some damage to the closet that is right behind the cap.
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:14 AM   #10
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I noticed the pin box flexing up into the nose of the trailer. It would move about 4-5 inches between when it was disconnected and hooked up to the truck. Also, there was some damage to the closet that is right behind the cap.


Well that was a dang good catch and great lesson for all of us!

It would be good if they could figure out a way to do an inspection of the frame for cracks to prevent the crisis failure.
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There is another option that would work but it will be more costly. Replace your current hitch that you are using with an air ride hitch. I know another gentleman on TDR that uses the air ride hitch installed on his truck pulling a Champagne Cedar Creek. His wife, I think had back issues and this hitch improved the ride quality on both the truck and 5er.
You can then used the current pin box that you have.
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:02 PM   #12
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I did look into those hitches as well, but wow they are proud of them.

I went ahead and ordered the Trailair, so we will see how that goes. I never thought the ride was that bad, I'm more concerned with the frame and trying to lessen any stress to it that I can.

For what it was worth, I contacted Cedar Creek to let them know the situation. I was honestly pretty disappointed. I never asked them to pay for the bill, but their responses were interesting. I never once got a "I'm sorry", "I'm surprised to hear this" or anything along those lines. I emailed about the problem and the response was that I was not the original owner (which I am not, but the original owner had it on a permanent site, so whatever) and it was past warranty, which I already knew. Their closing line on every email was "Cedar Creek respectfully declines any participation".

Our family loves our camper and I'm not one to constantly complain about something that I own, so I wont drag this along, but I can say Cedar Creek probably wont get any future money from me or any recommendations to others.
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