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Old 02-23-2018, 12:36 PM   #1
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Progress 50 amp EMS installation

I want to install Progressives EMS system in my CC. Anyone done this before and where did you install it?
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:26 PM   #3
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:46 PM   #4
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Here's a link to a recent discussion of an EMS installation in the Cedar Creek section from a few weeks ago.
A search of the forum brought up additional threads.

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Old 02-23-2018, 02:12 PM   #5
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I installed mine behind the sliding access door on the front wall of the basement. I then fished the monitor wire up to the control panel in the unit.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:21 PM   #6
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Installed mine in the basement between the road side wall and the converter. Not an easy spot for an old guy but it's in there.
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:50 AM   #7
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We had major electrical issues shortly after buying our 36CKTS, just do a search if you're interested.

Vowing to never have that happen again we installed a Progressive 50C. We replaced the plug on the trailer and all the wire. We attached the wire to both sides of the 50C as instructed then found a good spot in the basement behind the bulkhead wall then marked the wire and cut to fit. We wired the new plug and mounted it and the wire the fuse box and secured the 50C. We were able to fish the phone cord up to the compartment where all the controls are and mounted it there.

The 50C has been a wonderful piece of mind for us. It's mandatory from here on out.
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I have a portable unit. I got it because I'm lazy and because I didn't want to have to do it twice if it ever did its job and totally fried!

However.....a friend of mine has similar setup. And his trailer almost caught on fire.....because of a bad plug into the trailer receptacle. Thus, his 'problem' was after the portable EMS unit. It was at the trailer plug in. It was loose at the neutral so it tried shooting the whole 240 at once!

Anyway, having a wired in unit puts it AFTER the receptacle, which is a great thing now that I realize that. I never thought of that when deciding whether to get portable or hardwired.

I very well may buy another hardwired unit and have Orvan install it this summer at an appointment I have with him. The other choice is to drive by JohnF's place on the way and get him to do it! LOL LOL
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:14 PM   #9
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I'm trying to find place for my hardwired 50C EMS in my 2017 29RLX Wildcat 5th wheel. Anyone put one in a similar RV? I Pulled the electrical panel out of the wall and it was covered with saw dust from when the RV was built. Wasn't too pleased about that.
Well I vacuumed up all the saw dust, but I still have not figured out where to place the EMS box yet, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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pulling a blank in my head, EMS what is it, I know that I will feel stupid when told, however it is what it is
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pulling a blank in my head, EMS what is it, I know that I will feel stupid when told, however it is what it is
Electrical Management System.
It's a device that monitors the power going to your trailer and shuts it off should anything get wonky. They're a step up from basic surge protectors because they also detect damaging voltage drops and improperly configured electrical pedestals. Available as either portable inline units or hardwired installations, it's a worthy investment.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:33 AM   #12
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In my earlier post I was asking if anyone had ever installed one of these hardwired Progressive Industries 50A EMS units in a 29RLX Wildcat 5th wheel. I am having a difficult time finding a good place close to where the shore power cord meets up with the power distribution panel (PDP). My PDP is located in the hallway wall adjacent to my bathroom in my Wildcat and FR built a box enclosure inside the bathroom to contain the PDP and all the wiring (see photo). My original hope was that I could put the EMS inside of this box, but there really wasn't enough room. I could see the shore power wire was exiting the box immediately down through the floor, so picking up the wiring in an adjacent cabinet was not an option. I investigated inside the basement access storage area and was able to partially removed paneling covering the inner sidewall. With the help of my camera I was able to see the wiring coming into that area, but it would be very difficult to reach the wires from that location, since it was between 2 to 3' away from the sidewall.
I started thinking yesterday that I may have made a mistake in buying the hardwired version of the EMS.
Well I slept on it last night and was going over all the possibilities and I believe I may have come up with a solution. My idea is to build a new cabinet just above the box enclosure for PDP in the bathroom to house the EMS. I may even add some storage function as well to design and this new cabinetmay also serve as a place to mount a toilet paper holder. I guess RV manufactures think we don't need TP holders in RV bathrooms for some reason. Here's a picture of the current PDP enclosure next to the john in my Wildcat. Not the best photo, but you get the idea.
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pulling a blank in my head, EMS what is it, I know that I will feel stupid when told, however it is what it is
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Electrical Management System.
It's a device that monitors the power going to your trailer and shuts it off should anything get wonky. They're a step up from basic surge protectors because they also detect damaging voltage drops and improperly configured electrical pedestals. Available as either portable inline units or hardwired installations, it's a worthy investment.
The surge protectors also will tell you if the receptacle is wired incorrectly. You just need to pay attention to the lights before you plug in your cable.

As far as voltage drops, you aer right on the money.
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They are like insurance good if you need it. Some have them and some do not. Some of us have camped for 35 years and never needed one.

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Old 02-25-2018, 11:31 AM   #16
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On my 36CKTS I installed it behind the furnace cold air intake panel. Large opening to access the area but cramped area to do the wiring.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:58 AM   #17
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That sawdust laying throughout the trailer is what gives it that “new trailer” smell.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:38 PM   #18
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That sawdust laying throughout the trailer is what gives it that “new trailer” smell.
My wife and I love the smell of fresh cut wood as well, but not so much in our electrical panel. It was also all over the inverter circuit boards, which probably got sucked in by the cooling fan on the panel. This could have caused a fire possibly or electrical component failure due to overheating. I would have never found this issue if I hadn't been looking for a good place for my EMS.
Others may want to take a peek in side/ behind their power panel and other appliances to make sure that all is well. I only had to remove a couple of screws to remove an access panel to find this issue. Just make sure you have power off in RV, including the battery before you go poking around.
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I don't know if this would help as I don't have a Cedar Creek. I had to make brackets to install EMS above the converter to make everything fit in a small space.
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I installed mine behind the sliding access door on the front wall of the basement. I then fished the monitor wire up to the control panel in the unit.
I did the same in our 34RL2. Installed the display next to the WiFi in the top of the entry closet.
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