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Old 12-01-2020, 04:34 PM   #1
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Rear Camera always on

So we had our 2020 Cedar Creek Silverback 31ik in for some warrantee work. One of the items is that the rear camera is on whenever the power c/o switch is on which drains the battery when we are dry camping. It is my understanding it should only be on when the running lights are on. We picked up the trailer today and the tech said "camera working as designed from the factory". It will be going back in to have other work completed next year as the dealer got bought out by Gander and will reopen next year. Thoughts on the camera and how does it work on your Cedar Creek.
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We have a 2018 Cedar Creek 36CK2. The camera gets its power from the running lights of the truck. Maybe they made a change on the newer model you have.
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We have a 2020 34IK and ours was wired up to be on all the time also the dealer said the same thing its wired up correctly. So when we were out at Amish family RV Orvan fixed it and now it comes on when the lights are turned on. So it can be changed. I beleive he had to do it on the inside of the rig to get to the wires. Unless you turned the battery disconnect switch off it would drain the battery.
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Ours (not FR brand) is wired to be on without the tow vehicles running lights on, if yours is like ours there may be a fuse holder near the buss bar, pull the fuse and it will turn it off. I found this out right before we bought ours, the fuse holder was empty and in order to give power to the rear camera you had to install a 10a fuse, I purchased the camera beforehand and installed it during the PDI. In the pic below you see the fuse holder, it’s open. Hope this helps.
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Ours (not FR brand) is wired to be on without the tow vehicles running lights on, if yours is like ours there may be a fuse holder near the buss bar, pull the fuse and it will turn it off. I found this out right before we bought ours, the fuse holder was empty and in order to give power to the rear camera you had to install a 10a fuse, I purchased the camera beforehand and installed it during the PDI. In the pic below you see the fuse holder, it’s open. Hope this helps.
So are you saying that in order to turn the camera off to keep it from discharging the batteries that you have to pull the fuse?
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So are you saying that in order to turn the camera off to keep it from discharging the batteries that you have to pull the fuse?
If itís wired like this in order to cut the power to the camera you would have to pull the fuse or turn off the battery quick connect.
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If itís wired like this in order to cut the power to the camera you would have to pull the fuse or turn off the battery quick connect.
That sure doesn't seem very convenient.
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That sure doesn't seem very convenient.
If it were mine I'd either rewire from straight battery power to clearance/tail light source-----------or just put a toggle switch in series with the fuse holder. Pulling fuses is NOT the way to go. Of course one could replace the fuse with a same size circuit breaker with manual feature to open circuit.
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If it were mine I'd either rewire from straight battery power to clearance/tail light source-----------or just put a toggle switch in series with the fuse holder. Pulling fuses is NOT the way to go. Of course one could replace the fuse with a same size circuit breaker with manual feature to open circuit.
I've thought about putting a toggle switch. We just replaced our original system with the Furrion Vision S with side marker cameras and the running lights have to be on in order for the side marker light cameras to work so now I'm just going to wire the rear camera to the clearance/tail light source.
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My 2019 CC 34RL2 is wired such that the observation camera ONLY comes on when the truck's lights are on - the way it was correctly designed.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:15 PM   #11
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Ours on all the time too

We bought a new Prime Time Tracer 20RBS and found out the camera is on fulltime. I installed a battery disconnect to solve the problem when we aren't hooked up to power. We've never dry camped but I'm ready with a solar charger to trickle charge the battery when not running the generator.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:32 PM   #12
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My Wildcat 5th wheel was wired so that the backup camera was on whenever the battery disconnect powered the RV. I didn’t want the backup camera on all the time either so I made a simple modification.

I had to look behind the panel holding the cutoff switch to find a wire that ran to an inline fuse that powered the camera. Pulling the fuse confirmed that this was powering the camera. I mounted a new 12 VDC SPST toggle switch on the panel holding the cutoff switch and labeled it “Camera.” I then cut the wire after the fuse and connected these wires to the switch, one on one side and the other on the other side. Now, I can shut off the camera when not using it.
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It is my understanding that it is wired to be always on in order to act as a security camera. Why it does not have a power switch to prevent draining the battery during storage time or if not desired is beyond me. Maybe they think that everyone has a battery disconnect switch. I do not, therefore I pull the fuse.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:57 PM   #14
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In Forest Rivers almighty wisdom they wired my camera to the rear vent van. So whenever the master battery switch was in the on position, the battery was draining and the camera was was on. I ended up putting a toggle switch in the power line and put it in the fan shroud so I can control it manually.
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:32 PM   #15
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Curious which model FR do you have. I never would have thought to look at the camera getting power from the fan. Going to look for the source today.
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Old 12-03-2020, 08:16 PM   #16
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My models a 2015 27,4 Wildcat MAXX. It was manufactured in Dallas Oregon. When I discovered what they did, I called the customer service rep. and told him what I found. He admitted that was not the correct way to wire it and would address the matter on future construction.
However, I believe the Cedar Creek is assembled back East and I'm sure that info was never shared with the other assemble plants.
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:38 PM   #17
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Went to the fuse panel and one of the fuses is labeled "fan & misc." Puled the fuse and the fantastic fan in the kitchen lost power along with the camera. Guess a switch by the fan is the easiest but 8' up. If I get bored, I'll see about finding 12 vdc in the back that is easy to access.
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According to my camera manufacturer the camera is supposed to be wired to the running lights. But it was to much trouble to get to that source so I just wired a toggle switch in the power line at the fantastic fan. I can reach it with a ruler, table knife or anything thats over 6 inches long. Best to install it so it operates east to west as opposed to north and south, for ease of operation.
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It is my understanding that it is wired to be always on in order to act as a security camera.

This is exactly correct, the rear cam wiring was changed so the Furrion cameras on the corners and over the door (if equipped) could be used as surveillance cameras when camping.
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I understand their reasoning for this but when dry camping it will run the batteries down sooner. Would have been nice if it was on it's own fuse or a switch was installed.
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