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Old 07-23-2021, 05:15 PM   #1
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To level or not

Iím curious how others are storing their rigs. Is it best to level when in long term storage or just use the front jacks.
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:20 PM   #2
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I park it level with stabilizers down. Dedicated, level, parking next to the garage. Only do this with the thought of going in/out the days before and after a trip to pack/unpack the fridge, make/unmake beds, etc. One day a guest will probably sleep there, but that hasn’t happened yet.
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:22 PM   #3
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Hey There! I don't know of any science behind it but I would think that leveling would be best. Think of a board leaning at an angle on the fence. If in that position long enough it would begin to warp. Given the construction of RVs and TTs, I think it would be prudent to level. Any engineers out there??
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:43 PM   #4
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Hey There! I don't know of any science behind it but I would think that leveling would be best. Think of a board leaning at an angle on the fence. If in that position long enough it would begin to warp. Given the construction of RVs and TTs, I think it would be prudent to level. Any engineers out there??
Here's an alternate viewpoint: Say you park your trailer, level, lower the stabilizer jacks, and generally set it up like you would if you were camping. Only thing is, you picked up a nail in your tire on the way home last time. How long before you notice that the weight of the trailer is now resting on bent or broken stabilizer jacks?

Or, put another way, I park my trailer at a storage lot with level pads. I chock the wheels so that it can't blow around in the wind. I drive by and check on it about every two weeks. If I park it with the stabilizers up, and one of my tires go flat, I have a flat tire to deal with. If I park it with them down and a tire goes flat, I have a flat tire *and* bent stabilizers to deal with.

Is it a high risk? Not at all. But it's greater than zero and easily avoidable - so I park with them up.
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:50 PM   #5
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Many folks purposely park non-level so the water runs off.
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I park it level with stabilizers down. Dedicated, level, parking next to the garage. Only do this with the thought of going in/out the days before and after a trip to pack/unpack the fridge, make/unmake beds, etc. One day a guest will probably sleep there, but that hasnít happened yet.
The OP is asking about a Cedar Creek 5th wheel and posted this in the Cedar Creek sub-forum.
Pretty sure they have hydraulic levelers, not stabilizers.
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I donít think you need to level. I keep my 5th wheel at an indoor storage facility. The facility moves the unit with a fork lift so I obviously only lower the landing gear.

I typically have the front lower than level so when they lift it with the fork lift that just gives a little more top clearance when they take it into the storage building. Iíve been doing this with our FR CC 33IK for 6 years with no issues.
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I donít think you need to level. I keep my 5th wheel at an indoor storage facility. The facility moves the unit with a fork lift so I obviously only lower the landing gear.

I typically have the front lower than level so when they lift it with the fork lift that just gives a little more top clearance when they take it into the storage building. Iíve been doing this with our FR CC 33IK for 6 years with no issues.
I also storage my CC 36CK2 at an indoor facility with only the front jacks down. They don't move it at all as there is nothing for them to get out from behind it and they don't have any equipment to move them with. Though they do have to fire up and move Class A's that they store in front of the 5th wheels when we need to get our 5er's in/out of storage.

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I park it level with stabilizers down. Dedicated, level, parking next to the garage. Only do this with the thought of going in/out the days before and after a trip to pack/unpack the fridge, make/unmake beds, etc. One day a guest will probably sleep there, but that hasnít happened yet.
When I bring it home I level it as I plan on opening/closing slides as we clean it and prepare for a trip. Don't want to open slides without it being level.

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Many folks purposely park non-level so the water runs off.
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Old 07-25-2021, 01:18 AM   #10
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We store at home, and only use the landing gear....even over the winter months.
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Old 07-30-2021, 12:49 PM   #11
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To level or not

Short term I only use the front jacks to level--slide ops ect. Longer storage I level up all around to take some load off the tires and axles and present more difficulties for thieves. After long term storage I wipe the jacks with a clean rag and ATF to preserve jack seals and remove dirt, gum and corrosion. Cedar Creek Silverback.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:41 PM   #12
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I have a concrete patio where I store mine. Which is level then just use tongue jack for front to back.
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Old 07-30-2021, 02:22 PM   #13
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Another perspective to leveling..

I just lowered the leveling jacks enough to take some weight off the suspension.

Long 8 month ordeal story short.
Had a vibration on a Winni Aspect 28B at lower speeds felt/sounded like really bad cupped tires, only it was coming from the rear/middle of the MH.
Brought into a Ford heavy truck/MH repair place.
After test drive they said it was the rear leaf springs were sagging causing the driveline to vibrate.
2010 Ford E450 chassis.with 22K on the OD. They ordered up new rear leaf springs from Ford.
Once old ones removed and setting side by side with the new leaf springs there was a big height difference.
Once new ones installed MH sat just about 1 inch higher in the rear.

Didn't fix the vibration, that's for another story , but helped with what looked like the rear of the MH sagging.

So from then on everytime I parked/stored it I would use the auto levelers to get just abit of weight off the suspension. I had a concrete pad so the MH sat pretty level .
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It absoluteley doesn't matter if you level or not when storing. Geeesh, the things folks worry about.....
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Old 07-31-2021, 07:19 AM   #15
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It absoluteley doesn't matter if you level or not when storing. Geeesh, the things folks worry about.....
Agreed.
Look at the units on factory/dealer lots. They sit there sometimes for months. I've never heard anyone say... "oh, I can't buy this unit, it's sat here on the lot unlevel."
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Old 07-31-2021, 07:40 AM   #16
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I park my trailer just enough out of level to let rain and air conditioner water drain off the roof and/or the coupler at a convenient height to hook up to the truck. Other than that it's cosmetic not structural.

No need for leveling jacks -- 'cuz leveling isn't necessary -- and for light weight trailers I'd never put the stabilizers down as they're not designed to support any weight.

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Side note. For extended period of time, more than a few weeks, I use hydraulic jacks to lift a bit of weight of the tires, to prevent the sidewalls from flatten out, this naturally levels the rig. Rig does not really need to be level, but I like to distribute the weight.
Additionally, I make sure that I have max air in tires as recommended by place cards on rig.
Goodyear has more specific recommendations on their web site abouth tire storge on rv.
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With our old TT, I always parked it slightly off level, as some others have mentioned, with the stabilizer jacks down. We could store it at home and the stabilizers just helped keep it from moving around so much in the wind (and whenever the creek overflowed).

Moved and got a newer TT. Have an HOA so canít park it at home. Have it parked in a covered storage lot, still putting down the stabilizers out of habit. Left it sitting there over the winter a little too long and the batteries died (turns out the dealer didnít wire things the way they said they had, thank you!). I was going to tow it over to the house anyway to clean it up, so no problem, Iíll just work the tongue jack with the hand crank. Oops, these stabilizers are electric, not manual like the old ones, and I couldnít figure out how to lift them manually. Had to pull the batteries, take them home to charge and then bring them back and reinstall into the TT. Now I leave the stabilizers upin storage.
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Hand crank?!

Plug into your truck and your electric jacks and stabilizers will work. Engine may have to be running (probably).

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Also realize that you can't legally tow without a good coach battery, as it is required to energize the brakes in the event of a trailer separation from the tow vehicle.
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