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Old 12-22-2017, 12:51 PM   #1
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Waste Tank Valves

We have a 2 year old Forest River Cedar Creek 36CKTS that we are very disappointed in. The newest issue is one of the grey tank valves coming apart, luckily itís stuck open. These valves have leaked since we got the trailer so Iíve had a twist on valve since we bought and I can control this with it.
We are on the road for Christmas and will use the twist on until we get home.

My thought is once home Iíll get under there and replace all the valves with high quality ones and spend some time making sure they are installed correctly.

We have 3 valves in 2 sizes, the black tank is a 3Ē and the 2 grey tanks are 1 1/2Ē. I havenít spent much time under the trailer so I donít know what type of real estate I have to deal with yet. I need to do research on different brands both electric and solid wire types.

Do yíall have some recommendations on specific brands and style valves?
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:19 PM   #2
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I had to fight all three valves but when one finally got stuck for good, I had it replaced. They had no grease on it. The three inch works fine now and when I get more time and money I will replace both 1 1/2 inch grey water valves. As far as I know all valves are the same except the electric ones and I wouldn't recommend them. I couldn't tell if the valve was open or closed.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:41 PM   #3
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Just replaced my black tank valve with an electric. Plan to do this for the grey tanks in the future. Love the electric. By the way all of my past trailers non C.C. have leaked. Not unique to C.C.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:43 PM   #4
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Same as #3 Love my electric valves. Switch is lighted to show when valve is open.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:34 PM   #5
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We had the same issue with hard pulling and leaking on two of our valves. The black tank cable finally broke. This was back in June after a trip north. After I dropped the underbelly and got to the valve I found that the valve was free moving and was not being allowed to close properly as a result of poor installation and adjustment of the cable. I also found this on the bath tank cable. This cable was twisted so hard it is no wonder it was hard to work.

I replaced both with new solid wire cables. I also clamped the cable to frame members to prevent the outside of the cable from moving. Did not need to do anything to the valve or valve body. Both now can be opened and closed with two fingers. I wish now I would have replaced the galley tank cable.
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Old 12-24-2017, 06:14 PM   #6
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My black water tank valve had leaked since we purchased the camper, I thought the valve was the problem. It was fixed at the rally, turns out nothing wrong with the valve the cable was to long. Orvan told me that it was rare for something to be wrong with the valve, it was always the cable being to long.
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Old 12-25-2017, 03:14 AM   #7
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One would think after a HUGE AMOUNT of customer dissatisfaction with this or any issue, they WOULD FIX IT ON THE LINE.
I worked for Ford back in the day. Many laughed as the dumb Toyota came to America. It took a plummet in sales to change the philosophy and improve not only parts but line inspections as well.
I have been to the Cedar Creek line 2x. It is a QUICK ASSEMBLY PROCESS. The mentality of fixing it LATER only works if you have a GREAT Warranty AND SKILLED FRIENDLY DEALERS WITH NOT ONLY MECHANICAL ABILITY BUT
CUSTOMER SATISFACTION.
Which ALL rv manufacturers at this price point seem not to have. RV sales are at an all time high. If ORVAN CAN FIX IT, others can be trained. You spend money to make money!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL FROM BEAUTIFUL HANNOVER
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Old 12-25-2017, 06:07 AM   #8
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Had to replace all four of mine. To my knowldege there is only Valterra and Bristol valves. There are two issues. First is the cables are sealed, so you can't lube them like you can on a motorcycle. Secondly, regardless of the length of the cable run, be it 4' or 10', they use a longer cable and don't fasten it, just loop it, so it harder and harder to pull. For what it's worth, if you have a warranty or even an extended warranty, it's a covered item.
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:15 AM   #9
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We had the same issue with hard pulling and leaking on two of our valves. The black tank cable finally broke. This was back in June after a trip north. After I dropped the underbelly and got to the valve I found that the valve was free moving and was not being allowed to close properly as a result of poor installation and adjustment of the cable. I also found this on the bath tank cable. This cable was twisted so hard it is no wonder it was hard to work.

I replaced both with new solid wire cables. I also clamped the cable to frame members to prevent the outside of the cable from moving. Did not need to do anything to the valve or valve body. Both now can be opened and closed with two fingers. I wish now I would have replaced the galley tank cable.

Were your valves the Bristol valves?

What brand of solid wire cables did you replace with?

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Old 12-25-2017, 01:58 PM   #10
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Mine were Bristol, however they were on my Voltage 3990. They are mostly interchangeable. Replaced with Valterra.
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Old 12-25-2017, 03:27 PM   #11
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DKRITTER, the valves are Bristol. The replacement cables were Valterra solid wire cables. I did have to shorten both cables to eliminate excessive travel. I also sprayed the inside of the cable sheath with WD40 Dry Lube. It is also extremely important to fasten the cable to something solid, not just the valve housing, this prevent the cable from flexing and trying to pull away from the valve. It's actually recommended by Bristol but none of my old cables were.

I did not have to make any modifications to the valve, the new cable fit exactly into the valve assembly. I was able to take my old cable to make sure the cable diameter was the same thickness.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:41 PM   #12
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I have a black tank valve that I can barely open and close. Can you tell me where itís located under the camper 2013 CC 36 ckts? I want to open the correct panel. I need to order the correct replacement?
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:12 PM   #13
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Waste Tank Valves

Mine was the panel directly under the outside water closet. Donít have a 36 ckts but a CC 38rd. Might be in about the same area.
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