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Old 05-26-2018, 12:31 PM   #1
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2018 FR3 30DS Ford Chassis AC Issue

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Picked up our new FR3 in VA in March when it was a balmy 25 degrees. No one thought to check the chassis AC on the PDI so on our first 85 degree day, turned it on and chassis AC blowing warm air. First problem found was thermostatic switch that sends power to AC compressor was bad. Replaced switch, evacuated and refilled freon to FW specs and all seems good......not quite air temp will not go below 69 degrees from dash.

Ford thinks the blend door may be jammed by debris or electronic control module for blend door could be bad, scheduled to go back to RV dealer for troubleshooting next week.

Has anyone had this or similar issue with your FR3?
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:30 PM   #2
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OK, no replies yet.............I gotta ask, does anyone use the AC dash when driving???
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:46 PM   #3
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All the time on my 2014 30DS. Never had any issues with it over the last 4 years.
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Yes live in South Florida and most of the 10K miles I've driven the A/C is blasting. Leaks condensation on front left inside at very hot and humid days, but always cold air...

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Works well with no issues. 2017 31DS
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If it is the blend door, that would be Fords problem not the dealer, you should have 2 different warranty 1 on the coach or RV section, 2nd on the Ford chassis which includes the engine who told you That? Your dealer will not repair your engine A/C system. Did I READ that correctly?
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You should 1 year from FR. And 3 years or 36,000 miles from Ford just like any other truck, not all Ford dealers will work on a RV chassis call Ford to find the closest dealership, because of weight and height. Hope that helps.
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I had about 8 months of fighting with the RV dealership, Ford, and FR to get the AC dash blower motor replaced.



Most of the issue was with the dealer's service department, because it was under warranty.
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I had about 8 months of fighting with the RV dealership, Ford, and FR to get the AC dash blower motor replaced.



Most of the issue was with the dealer's service department, because it was under warranty.
So who did the repair in the end? Ford or the RV dealership.
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Old 05-29-2018, 05:47 PM   #10
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The RV dealership.... After MUCH pain. Needless to say I will never go back to them.
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What refrigerant would go in it
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I'm surprised they didn't drive to Ford, glad it got repaired for you.
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What refrigerant would go in it
It should be R-134, standard. Use to be R-12 which was banded about 15 years ago, bad for the ozone. Same they put in your house a/c system.
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What refrigerant would go in it
Should be 134a
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The Ford parts in the AC are the compressor and condenser coil. The blend door is part of the control system installed by FR.
Here is a photo showing what is Ford and what is FR.


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The Ford parts in the AC are the compressor and condenser coil. The blend door is part of the control system installed by FR.
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Thanks I see it but I don't believe it, Why wouldn't Ford put in there own blend door for the cab? What does that have to do with the Coach? doesn't that only take care of the cab and not the coach. What a nightmare on who repairs what, PLEASE educate me on this dividing line. How do you know who to take things to, just curious..... Thanks for the info, also what is it classified as class a, b or c
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What I posted is for a Class A, Ford does not build the dash in them. The question was about a FR3, a class A. On Class Bs and Cs, Ford, Chevy, MB builds the dash as part of the cab, In those Ford, Chevy, MB covers the full system.

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Old 05-30-2018, 08:00 AM   #18
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Thanks all for the comments, Ford claims the air box and blend doors are provided by the RV manufacturer. I guess we shall see next week, wish me luck, I will post the fix once determined 8-)
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I'm brand new to the forum so if the appearance of my reply displays poorly it's because this is my first post and I'm still figuring things out.
I purchased a 2019 FR3 32DS around Easter, first RV for us, and have immediately experienced the same cab A/C problem. But I also experienced problem with cab heat, it was cold here in PA during those first weeks following my purchase. Cab heat barely blew lukewarm air in high 20-degree outside temp while driving, like a house heat-pump unit when it's 10-below and windy outside. During recent multi-day trip in 80-degree outside temps the cab a/c would blow only barely cool air. 6 hours on I-95, had to start the genny and use the house a/c with a fan blowing toward the cab just to keep from sweating through the seat. I explained the issue to my dealer's service mgr. as I scheduled an appointment for next week concerning a laundry list of issues to be fixed, he sounded less than convinced that it's not an Operator-Error situation but we'll see how it goes and I'll report back with what happens.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:23 AM   #20
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I feel you pain FarFromLibral. A local mechanic friend told me to tell the RV Dealer to pinch off or cap the heater hoses and see if the AC temperature rises, if it does, it is definitely a blend door issue. I doubt if the system was ever checked by Forest River for proper hot/cold operation since mine has at least 2 AC issues direct from the factory and was delivered in December 2017.

First - AC compressor (Ford) was not running. The fix was a $30 thermostatic switch installed by Forest River. Now AC blows at 69 degrees, heat seems to work fine. Do you hear the compressor turn on when you press the AC switch on the dash and the switch light come on?

Mine is also scheduled to go back to the dealer to troubleshoot. Good luck, will repost once fixed!
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