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Old 08-05-2024, 11:32 PM   #1
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Will having my freshwater tank full.. and wastewater tanks ~semi full coming home from a trip .. lower my center of gravity to help counter high cross winds across Wyoming I-80 for driving stability? Would love to see an engineering diagram where the COG is on this rig..
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New 2024 owner here..

Will having my freshwater tank full.. and wastewater tanks ~semi full coming home from a trip .. lower my center of gravity to help counter high cross winds across Wyoming I-80 for driving stability? Would love to see an engineering diagram where the COG is on this rig..
Moved thread from the General Community Discussion section to the FR3 sub-forum since the OP's questions are specific to a FR3 model and not general community questions.
Also for better help from other FR3 owners and possible factory support.
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fcernst: Contact FR warranty with your 17 digit vin number, they should be able to get you a drawing showing the tank layout and locations. Which would give you a better idea of where this extra weight your asking about would be distributed. The 33Z is on a 22,000# chassis with 22.5" rubber, it should handle the wind pretty well as is. FR Warranty 574-206-7600
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The extra weight probably would help as long as your within your carry weight but I think a key question is would you feel a difference?
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New 2024 owner here..

Will having my freshwater tank full.. and wastewater tanks ~semi full coming home from a trip .. lower my center of gravity to help counter high cross winds across Wyoming I-80 for driving stability? Would love to see an engineering diagram where the COG is on this rig..
It will be interesting to learn what you find out. My best counter to high-winds is avoiding traveling in them either entirely or with early morning starts and then stopping before things get too bad.
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What's your OCCC from the yellow sticker on the door frame?

You can get a clue where the fore-aft CG is simply by realizing that the front axle is rated for 8,000 lbs and the rear axle is rated for 15,000 lbs on the 22K chassis. That puts the CG about 1/3rd of the way between the rear axle and the front axle if both axles are loaded to their GAWR. So closer to the rear axle. Because it has to be.

And there is no storage in front of the front axle so everything that is added will add weight to the rear axle. Every time we have weighed our 22K chassis the front axle has been between 7,020 lbs and 7,240 lbs with two adults up front.

Fully loaded for a trip, emptied completely for a maintenance trip, it doesn't matter. But the rear axle varies almost 2,500 lbs.

As for the vertical CG it's got to be very low already simply because there isn't much weight, comparatively-speaking, that is above the floor level versus at the floor level or below.

If you're concerned about winds hitting the barn door sides adding water isn't going to help much. Stiffening up the suspension with a rear trac bar, better shocks (ones that actually work), and maybe a supplemental rear sway bar will all help. A steering stabilizer and maybe radius rods also will help.

Yes, people are still adding a supplemental rear sway bar to the V8 chassis and anecdotally reporting much less sway.

Also, tanks partially filled will mean a lot of sloshing and that will make the problem worse somewhat. There are no baffles in the tanks.

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