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Old 08-17-2018, 12:57 PM   #1
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Leather Upholstery Wear & Tear

I'm in a 2015 FR3 DS30 with only 20k Mike's on it. The brown leather Upholstery is rubbing off everywhere. How have you addressed this? Any maintenance tips for oils or covers that you recommend? Click image for larger version

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Old 08-17-2018, 01:11 PM   #2
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I had the same problem with my 2015 Prime Time Sanibel and was told by them that they would "do something for me" but they would not replace the furniture at the International FROG rally. I found that recovering the furniture would cost as much or more as replacing the furniture. We got a new theater seating arrangement from RecPro and are very happy with it. I have heard that some have been replaced during the warranted period but most seem to happen just outside of that.
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It's not leather. Same stuff that's in my Montana. At best, it's bonded leather, which is a marketing scheme to sell you. Bonded leather can have as little as 6% percent leather shreds that are mixed with materials similar to vinyl. A good quality vinyl will last way longer than bonded leather IMHO. Choice is to cover it or replace, at great expense.
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I'm in a 2015 FR3 DS30 with only 20k Mike's on it. The brown leather Upholstery is rubbing off everywhere. How have you addressed this? Any maintenance tips for oils or covers that you recommend? Attachment 183523Attachment 183524Attachment 183525


I also have a 2015 30DS with 20,000 miles on it. My interior seating surfaces are the lighter shade of brown, no dark brown trim. Luckily I have not experienced any deterioration to the surfaces. Is it just the dark brown surface areas that are deteriorating?
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It's not leather. Same stuff that's in my Montana. At best, it's bonded leather, which is a marketing scheme to sell you. Bonded leather can have as little as 6% percent leather shreds that are mixed with materials similar to vinyl. A good quality vinyl will last way longer than bonded leather IMHO. Choice is to cover it or replace, at great expense.
^^^^^^This
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I have a 2015 30ds. And have stayed in it for over 400 days. And no wear and tear... thatís pretty sad
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:31 AM   #7
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I'm in a 2015 FR3 DS30 with only 20k Mike's on it. The brown leather Upholstery is rubbing off everywhere. How have you addressed this? Any maintenance tips for oils or covers that you recommend? Attachment 183523Attachment 183524Attachment 183525
I have a 2015 FR# 30DS that is garaged and has just over 10K miles on it. The mileage was racked up on two cross country trips, the only time it was not in the garage. About a year ago I noticed the "leather" was flaking off and leaving the cloth material visible. Did not think much about it because I thought I must have scraped my drivers seat somehow. The same thing happened to the passenger's seat. I pulled the tag off the bottom of the seat and called the maker of the seat. I was told by the owner of the company that he told Forest River that the material that FR selected was made in China and was the worst material he ever had and used. He recommended to the FR manager in the purchasing department that it should not be used. The manager asked him "if it will last for the warranty period" and he was told "that it would last for a year then FR is out of the loop". FR knew it was junk material but did not care "just so long as it would last for the warranty to run out". I just spent almost $1,200 for 2 new seats. Great attitude toward their customers. We have had many motorhomes that cost much more that a FR DS30 and never had such junk. I have spent over $15,000 on the coach to make it reliable. Hopefully, I have succeeded since no problems have arisen during our last short trip (600 miles) to the Keys. I forgot to mention that the paint on the front cap is deteriorating badly and I just sealed the front cap/roof seam and antenna mount because of a water leak running down the inside of the windshield
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Not sure it will help but we condition out seats at least once a year !!!
And do every thing we can do to keep the sun out !!!

That drivers seat reminds me of my last office chair !!!
Bonded Leather !!! A Super Bad product !!!
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It's not leather. Same stuff that's in my Montana. At best, it's bonded leather, which is a marketing scheme to sell you. Bonded leather can have as little as 6% percent leather shreds that are mixed with materials similar to vinyl. A good quality vinyl will last way longer than bonded leather IMHO. Choice is to cover it or replace, at great expense.
We found that out on an expensive dinette set. When we tried to clean the leather, the die washed off.
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We had the same problem in our 5th wheel and have done a lot of research. I found this to be the best solution short of replacing the seats:



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That is a great repair idea if we were talking about real leather. But Forest River does not use real leather it is fake or bonded leather where there is a small percentage of leather bits that are ground up and then pressed onto a cloth backing.
Once that surface starts to peal or flake off you have the cloth backing exposed, I know of no repair kit that will correct this condition.
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Contact Cover King. They sell a wide variety of covers for seats. Leather and every type if vinyl and other fabrics. I just put new covers on my Silverado and bought the Rhino Hide. Looks like real leather and the only cover I found with 5 years warranty and is thicker than their other offerings... Even their leather is only 2 years. You make strike it lucky.
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That is a great repair idea if we were talking about real leather. But Forest River does not use real leather it is fake or bonded leather where there is a small percentage of leather bits that are ground up and then pressed onto a cloth backing.
Once that surface starts to peal or flake off you have the cloth backing exposed, I know of no repair kit that will correct this condition.
I know that it says "leather", but the filler says that it works on vinyl as well. If the vinyl is cracked, like mine is, it needs to have a filler to bond with the surface, then a matching dye. Those kits start around $40 so if you're willing to put in a little effort, it's a lot cheaper than covers or replacing the furniture.

I don't know, however, how permanent it is.
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We had the same problem in our 5th wheel and have done a lot of research. I found this to be the best solution short of replacing the seats:



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Might work on real leather ???
Not on bonded leather !!!
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This is a problem across all RVs. Mine is a 2016 Vengeance and the "leather" is peeling. Out of warranty and the replacement cost is too high to buy more junk. I am looking for a cover or possible furniture that is not the bonded leather. Thomas Payne collection for RVs is all junk
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If ours were to starting peeling,,,
about all we could do is to buy some crappy seat covers !!!

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RV owners need to let this be a lesson. NEVER BUY FAUX LEATHER! If it comes in your RV change it out.
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RV owners need to let this be a lesson. NEVER BUY FAUX LEATHER! If it comes in your RV change it out.
Easier said than done !!!
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After 16 years our cloth foldout love seat is tired. Changing it out this week for a duel recliner cloth wall hugger love seat by Ashley.
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Our 2015 FR3 30DS driver seat is starting to do this now. The weird part is the flaking isn't from a spot my body touches. I am sad. Yet another reason to stay away from FR3 and/or Forest River Products.
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