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06-12-2019, 12:49 PM
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Planning for gas is a very good tip. I usually start to look at around 1/2 tank and from that point the first big roomy station I see gets a visit. I get 6-8 mpg with a 26 gallon tank so starting to look at 1/2 gives me a little cushion to find an appropriate station.
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06-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smkauffman
Planning for gas is a very good tip. I usually start to look at around 1/2 tank and from that point the first big roomy station I see gets a visit. I get 6-8 mpg with a 26 gallon tank so starting to look at 1/2 gives me a little cushion to find an appropriate station.
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Every 100 miles you're looking for gas? Wowza.
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06-12-2019, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aeblank
Every 100 miles you're looking for gas? Wowza.
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Yep, right around there is when I start keeping an eye out. I usually end up stopping between there and around 130ish depending on what I see for stations.
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06-12-2019, 02:01 PM
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43 posts and the the OP has never come back. So no clue whether the TT has a WDH or not. I'm guessing that it doesn't.
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4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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06-12-2019, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jwfrede
I guess I am not average as I think about what it costs to go somewhere. When I buy a new vehicle I make an estimate of the marginal(I ignore insurance) cost per mile for the vehicle by figuring I drive it 100000-150000 mi and the resale price is about equal to my repairs, and then add gas. So my F-150 cost me around $45k/100000-150000 = 30-45 cent/mi for the vehicle + 15 cent/mi for gas when not towing. Gas is about twice when towing. After I have a 100000-150000 mi on the vehicle I re-estimate based on some new guess at depreciation. So I figure my 2016 F-150 costs about 50 cent/mi to go to the store or 65 cent/mi with the trailer. This is why I drive my old 16yr old Ford Ranger to the store.
So that trip to Florida probably costs around $1.5-2k for the trip at 50-65 cent/mile.
AAA thinks it costs about 67 cent/mi per year nationwide average for a pickup($10k and 15k miles), but I think that includes insurance. If insurance is around $2k/yr that puts it just over 50 cent/mi
https://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/
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Different isn’t bad, I didn’t read your articles because I am different. I am sure AAA has a great thought process and I am sure mine is flawed. When I calculate for trips. I don’t include wear and tear tires go bad faster here in Texas just sitting, batteries the same, on the Tundra it’s an oil change every 15 k ( I think) So in my mind I don’t calculate wear and tear just the cost of fuel. I always try to over calculate that. It’s better to have extra gas money than no gas money. As for depreciation that’s a per car per area deal and near impossible to calculate. Due to miles conditions, demand for the car ect
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06-12-2019, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by moose074
It’s not to much trl and 3/4 would be nice but not necessary
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From what I see, that trailer weighs almost 6500 lbs dry. I'm a little crazy when it comes to towing, and I'd never haul that much weight with a 1/2 ton. Just because you CAN tow it, doesnt mean you should. My TT weights about 4000 lbs loaded with water in the water tank. I pull it with my 3/4 ton and wouldnt want to tow it with a 1/2 ton. Bigger is better when it comes to towing, but that's just one mans opinion.
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06-12-2019, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bikendan
43 posts and the the OP has never come back. So no clue whether the TT has a WDH or not. I'm guessing that it doesn't.
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My guess is that she is somewhere around Homestead, FL with limited internet access.
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06-17-2019, 06:23 PM
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I have almost the same set up, only difference is the year. You will need some sort of trailer hitch away control and a electric brake controller for the truck if it doesn't have one. Other than that your truck will be fine. I have pulled my trailer over the Rockies from coast to coast several times with no issues. Like others have said make sure the trailer tires are full to the max printed on them and be a little careful of low hanging parts like the corner stabilizers and sewage drains...Oh, and state parks and walmarts are your friends for sleeping, just make sure to get to state parks early as they fill up often.
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06-17-2019, 06:43 PM
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Tundra towing
I cannot believe that some folks think it's okay to tow a 37ft, and at least a 9000 lb trailer with any 1/2 ton truck. This would be a daunting and risky task for a person with towing experience. All this before we even wonder about hitches, brakes, tires, and fuel and general inexperienc. And if it gets home are they going to continue towing with this dangerous combination? Tundra is a nice truck but not for this job.
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06-17-2019, 06:56 PM
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Be very careful and take the caution expressed in this thread seriously. That is too much trailer for that truck, primarily due to length. A properly set up WDH with sway control, towing mirrors, and trans cooler would be required in my opinion. I wouldn’t pull that trailer with anything less than a 3/4 ton truck. CAN the Tundra pull it? Sure. Should it? No. I wouldn’t put my family in it.
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06-17-2019, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeves
Be very careful and take the caution expressed in this thread seriously. That is too much trailer for that truck, primarily due to length. A properly set up WDH with sway control, towing mirrors, and trans cooler would be required in my opinion. I wouldn’t pull that trailer with anything less than a 3/4 ton truck. CAN the Tundra pull it? Sure. Should it? No. I wouldn’t put my family in it.
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I would agree that for any of the American big 3 it is too much for the 1k versions but a tundra 4wd with trailer package, not an issue, I speak from experience not assumption...I have found that the big 3 on the whole over state their towing/carrying capacity while Toyota does just the opposite, probably why Toyota outlasts them all (in the same catagory).
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06-17-2019, 07:36 PM
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Empty the water tanks
Save weight - empty the water tanks. (Just in case you didn't think of that). Also - the guy who said check your air pressure should have said both truck and trailer pressure. The harder the tire the less rolling resistance and the best miles per gallon. I have a RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi and a weight distribution hitch. I pull a 37 foot 4 inch Keystone travel trailer. On the flat - no problem. I would never take it up or down hills. I live in Florida. I would get a bigger truck if I ever wanted to came in the summer up in the Adirondacks. Do not take what you don't need. Donate, sell it, leave it behind. Lighten up.
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06-17-2019, 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walholler
I would be concerned with the total weight of the travel trailer and the max the truck mounted hitch is built to withstand. Most all half ton trucks come equipped with a 5000 lb. weight limit hitch. If the trailer overall weight exceeds that 5000 lb. limit, you could be asking for trouble. I own a 2500HD Chevrolet work truck that has a factory installed 10,000 lb. receiver hitch installed.
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That's not true. The 5000 lbs. Max towing is towing from the bumper. Almost every manufacturer installs a reciever for at least 10,000 lbs. I can't believe al the posts about needing a WDH. The idea of not having one is ridiculous.
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06-17-2019, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2018
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I have a 2018 29TE. Although for its size it is lighter than comparable units it has a very heavy tongue weight. Loaded is at 1110 lbs. 6700 lbs axle. empty I was at 895 with full bottles. I picked it up from the dealer with my 1500 gmc with a WDH and it was all the truck could handle. The axles sit so far back that the force on the hitch when going over bumps gives a very pronounced porpoise effect. I would recommend a good WDH with sway control. I’ve lived this one so hopefully you plan accordingly.
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06-17-2019, 07:57 PM
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The other problem beside the trailer being overweight for the Tundra is that she'll also have to contend with the MISERABLE stretch of I-10 between Louisiana and Beaumont. I swore after last year's trip I'd never tow my 5th wheel to Florida again.
It was bad back in 2007 when I hauled a U-haul to Gainesville - the jarring between the overly worn concrete slabs caused the hitch ball bolt to come undone. Luckily it did it when I was off the I-10, or someone would have died.
It was still bad in 2010 driving my Dad's 40' RV from Gainesville to Austin, and again back. People on this forum told me that the road had been improved - it hadn't.
It's STILL bad in 2018.
You could have a pro haul it from Miami to Austin for you for probably a couple grand (that's what I paid to have the 5er delivered from Ohio when I bought it).
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06-17-2019, 07:57 PM
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Yeh, my son has a Tundra and I sure wouldn’t want to pull my 35’ camper on the interstate with it!
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06-17-2019, 08:19 PM
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You need to upgrade your tow vehicle ASAP.
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06-17-2019, 08:51 PM
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I tow a Gray Wolf 27DBS with a 2018 Tundra TRD 4X4 with no problems. The truck is full of pax and the TT is usually pack full from San Antonio to Albuquerque. Make sure the hitch is set up properly, the tires are in good condition and inflated to max load pressure and don’t exceed the speed rating for the tires. If you have any concerns have the local RV shop check out the rig before you hit the road. Good luck.
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06-17-2019, 09:45 PM
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Sometimes the use of acronyms might be confusing to a newbie. I’m not a newbie but I don’t know what a WDH is? Anyone?
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06-17-2019, 09:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royalhope
Sometimes the use of acronyms might be confusing to a newbie. I’m not a newbie but I don’t know what a WDH is? Anyone?
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Weight Distributing Hitch - it's used multiple times every day.
BTW, we have a list of acronyms, initialisms, etc. See http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...do=file&id=230.
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