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Old 11-16-2018, 10:15 AM   #1
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Alpha Wolf Arctic Package!

Well I put the Alpha Wolf Artic Package to the test hunting and it's just another marketing ploy to get more $$$ out of you.

Hunting in northern Michigan this week. It hit 19 degrees two nights in a row and the line from the fresh water tank to the pump froze. Day time highs we're in the mid 20's to 30. Tried to run the furnace up high hoping it would heat the floor / underbelly but no luck.

I ended up cutting a flap in the underbelly between the fresh water tank and the black or grey tank. Boy was I disappointed! The tanks we're not even insulation wrapped, the fresh water supply and breather lines ran along the cold steel C channel of the trailer frame. Basically the only thing for insulation was the plastic unberbelly cover.

With the flap open I made a stove pipe of reflectix and had to run an electric heater in the stove pipe for 6 hours to warm up the underbelly and thaw out the line.

My buddies KZ Sportsman has the artic package and he had no problem. He has a heat duct running through the floor which helps heat the underbelly. He told me to check mine as it might be blocked. I pulled the heater grill cover inside only to find two ducts coming out and their both for the inside vents.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:20 AM   #2
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Alpha Wolf Artic Package!

So they put big stickers on it, advertising posters of it at the dealership and push this.

Artic Package - what a joke.

Tanks not insulated
Lines not insulated
No heat duct to the underbelly
Single pain windows
No insulation in the storage under bed
No insulation in storage under bunk

Just a marketing ploy for a 26 by 10 sheet of plastic cardboard.

If you ask me that's False Advertising !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:27 AM   #3
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I thought the artic packages had electric tank heaters? no go?
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:20 AM   #4
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No tank heater or heating pad
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:30 AM   #5
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There is no industry standard for any of these "Arctic, Cold Weather, Four Season" packages. Meaningless, can be nothing more than a decal. You have no recourse with the manufacturer if it doesn't work as expected.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:39 AM   #6
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Well this is from the website. They sure do call it an arctic package, but...I'm not sure why.

There is nothing cold weather related that I can see.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:01 PM   #7
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Yeah, I'm seeing that now. Ugh!
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:41 PM   #8
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Funny enough there's also a "Extreme Weather Package" that has all the goodies like larger furnace, heated and enclosed underbelly, better insulation. You'd think the Arctic *has* extreme weather .....
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:12 PM   #9
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ARCTIC, ärk-tik, adjective: Of, relating to, or suitable for use at the north pole or the region near it.

Really now?

Caveat Emptor (let the buyer beware)
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:25 PM   #10
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Did you at least get a picture of an Artic wolf or was this a total rip-off? I wonder how many other people fell for this scam.

I can’t think of any reason to call it an Artic package other than to mislead buyers.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:24 AM   #11
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At the dealership my wife fell in love with it walking around the outside with the salesman. I said it's a little higher than we wanted but it has the Artic Package so the underbelly is insulated and close so the extra cost would be worth it. The salesman standing next to me didn't say a thing.

To me it's total false advertising. I mean if the package was just interior upgrades and such then call it the deluxe or platnimum package. Not the ARTIC PACKAGE!
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:53 AM   #12
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As far as I’m concerned when it comes to buying an RV it is, Caveat Emptor.

In my opinion the Arctic Wolf is an entry level trailer and nothing more. Before buying any trailer you should look at construction materials used, insulation values, etc. and not the eye candy aspect. One more thing, I would never buy any trailer without taking a factory tour of the brand I planned to buy.

We toured the Cherokee Wolf factory many years ago and that tour alone turned me off to buying anything built by Cherokee.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:29 PM   #13
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did you get a deer at least? I wouldn't call a KZ a high end trailer. Most KZ's are built for light weight. Surprised your friends camper did so much better.
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Old 11-17-2018, 01:31 PM   #14
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No deer yet. His KZ Sportsman has the heat duct and vents running along the floor so it helps keep that void warm.

Yeah we looked at the Sportsman and Jayco but the Alpha Wolf had the best layout and available storage.
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Hey, since you cut the bottom ARTIC PLASTIC SHEET, did you notice the tank supports and do they look strong enough?I'm sure when it gets spring time you will be running an extension heat duct from the heater so be sure to keep us informed and with pictures so we all know what is hiding under that expensive plastic ARTIC BARRIER
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Old 11-18-2018, 07:57 AM   #16
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I only made about a 12" by 12" flap cut around one of the self tapping bolts holding up the plastic. It was right between the tanks so I couldn't see the tank supports.

Yeah, looks like the spring project will be removing the plastic, adding a fresh water A/C heating pad, wrapping the tanks in refletix, foil wrapping and installing a heat tape to the fresh water line, putting in a furnace line in the "camp kitchen" storage area to help heat the underbelly. Hopefully I can add some R11 or rigid foam to the floor some how before I put the plastic back up.
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Extreme Weather Artic Package: that's what the sticker on the side of the trailer says.

I called FR customer support for the Cherokee and they told my this package has upgraded fidge foam in the walls and ceiling. They said the floor has a combination of materials in the floor for insulation. I asked "What about the underbelly" and they said that has nothing. I said my water line froze at 19 degrees. They said we don't recommend below freezing temps. It only a three season camper. I said then why are you calling it Extreme weather Artic Package? So the Artic Package is only for use through October? Makes no sense to me. All I got was sorry you can get with a dealer for upgrades to the underbelly. Um, that's what I expected when I purchased the 'Extreme Weather Artic Package'!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Extreme Weather Arctic package is a RV Marketing practice, just like 1/2 Towable 5th Wheels. 🤣
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:54 PM   #19
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Yeah, I guess we learned our lesson as first time buyers. At least now I can upgrade it to my liking this spring. Other than this Artic Package issue we love the camper.
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Old 11-19-2018, 07:21 PM   #20
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Arctic... Artic. Sorry... pet peeve rant...

Arctic*refers to the North Pole and the region surrounding it extending into the North American and Eurasian continents. A cold front coming from the far north, even if it doesn’t necessarily come all the way from the North Pole, is colloquially described as an “arctic blast”.
The continent at the South Pole is Antarctica.

Arctic is also one of the most frequently misspelled and mispronounced words: people tend to drop the first*C, pronouncing it*artic.

Unfortunately, to be correct, you must use*arctic*if you’re referring to that which pertains to that northern region of the globe.

It turns out, interestingly enough, that*artic*is an actual word. More specifically, it’s an informal abbreviation meaning an “articulated lorry”. A*lorry*is a large truck designed to carry heavy loads. An*articulated lorry,*in automotive engineering terms, is a truck consisting of a tractor and trailer together as one unit.

Clearly,*artic*and*arctic*are in no way interchangeable. But then no one ever said that the right word would always be easy to spell or pronounce!
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