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08-27-2020, 11:53 PM
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In 35 days you had numerous issues, took to dealer for repairs, and he kept it long enough to do the repairs for you to come after it. After he damaged, how long to get it out after the repairs?
I think there is a pretty good chance to replace the trailer and let the dealer sell the 'used' one after he fixes it.
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08-28-2020, 06:16 AM
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Unfortunately it looks we lost the OP. Hopefully he comes back and let's us know either whats going on now or what happened for a final conclusion.
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08-28-2020, 06:29 AM
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Location: TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander_Trailing
Hi everyone,
We recently purchased our first trailer, a Cherokee WolfPup 17JG. The trailer has had numerous issues and was in the shop. On the way to pick up the trailer the dealer called us to notify us they dropped the trailer while towing it. The trailer was being towed by a forklift when it fell off and proceeded to run into the forklift. The tongue is unusable and the forklift punched a hole in the front of the trailer. The trailer is only 35 days old.
The dealer said they will give us a new tongue and replace the hole. My concern is what latent issues or hidden damage may be possible. Has anyone experienced issues after dropping their trailer? Should we get a lawyer? Thanks in advance.
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Do you have full replacement insurance? If so and your insurance feels its totalled, you will get what you paid for Trailer and can purchase a new one. I would call insurance and possibly an atty.
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08-28-2020, 06:48 AM
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PhD, Common Sense
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fairborn, OH
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I am sure that this will not be considered warranty work. Forest River is going to say, “We delivered you a perfectly good RV, and you dropped it. You are financially liable.”
Another dealer would be happy to do the work, charging your dealer full price for labor and materials. They would even be willing to find every little problem that they could attribute to the accident and add it to their estimate.
I recommend demanding a new replacement RV, but if you are stuck with a repair job, get it from a third party whose interest is making money. Your dealer’s interest will be solely in saving money—at your expense.
You cannot be forced to allow the party that damaged your property to repair it. As long as the repairs and the cost are reasonable, you get to choose where the RV is repaired.
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08-28-2020, 06:55 AM
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#65
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Join Date: May 2017
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Lost the OP on the second day. Doubt they're coming back.
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08-28-2020, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: NEGA Mtns.
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We have an 019 WOLF PUP 17BHS we love it! No way I would take your unit that they damaged. You bought a NEW trailer not a damaged one. Don't let them buy with it.
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08-28-2020, 07:55 AM
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I was talking to an RV tech about a year ago and one of the things he mentioned is that the number one worry for them is trailer damage caused by moving them in and out of the shop.
Not every dealer uses good equipment for moving the trailers and it takes some serious knowledge with all different setups out there especially for heavy units.
My dealer because their shop is smaller end up moving the trailers at least twice.
Peace
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08-28-2020, 08:48 AM
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I know this is a bit off-topic, but it reminds me of a phone I bought a couple of years ago, a Google Pixel 2 XL. About three weeks after purchasing it, the camera quit working. I contacted both Google and Verizon, and both would cover it under warranty, no problem... However, they both would send me a refurbished phone, not a new one. I argued until I was blue in the face that I paid full price for a NEW phone, not a refurbished phone, and after 3 weeks I now have a refurbished phone for the price of a new one?!! Nothing I could do though short of getting a lawyer, which wasn't worth it for an $800 item. I ended up having the same camera issue time and time again and eventually had the phone replaced NINE more times until I got a working unit. My hope is that the company paid more replacing the phone nine times with a refurbished unit than just sending me a new one initially.
In this case though, if it came to it, I'd pony up for a lawyer to fight this one. Hopefully negotiations with the dealer and/or insurance getting involved will get it figured out.
Really hoping the OP comes back and updates us.
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08-28-2020, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Media, PA
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The police respond to private property accidents in PA. Probably same in many others.
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Originally Posted by Accountingphd
In most places an accident on private property isn’t considered an accident and police will not issue a police report. Fender bender at Wal-Mart and they won’t come out. The two owners exchange info and the insurance companies fight it out. Or with no fault your insurance just pays up. The same would hold on the dealer’s lot. Could be different in this owner’s state but that is the rule in at least 6 states I’ve lived in.
Don’t do like so many and stop making payments just because you don’t have use.
Definitely would insist on a new trailer.
And please post dealer name as others have requested. None of us want to be the next victim.
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08-28-2020, 09:57 AM
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Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delco Bobby
The police respond to private property accidents in PA. Probably same in many others.
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The police do not respond to private property accidents in Virginia and many other states unless there is bodily injury. If you can get them to respond here they will not take your information. All they will do is make sure that you exchange info. with the other party, so no official report. That is any private parking lots, or businesses.
Also earlier it was mentioned was the forklift operator certified. That does not mean much either. All certification means in Virginia any way was he / she is trained. Does not specify who a trainer is. It is somewhat up to the company.
Any one heard from the OP.
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08-28-2020, 11:19 AM
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I would demand a new trailer first.If no satisfaction. then I'd go to a lawyer,fixing a hole will never be right.You,ll always have problems.That was their fault,not yours.
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08-28-2020, 11:46 AM
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Location: Southern NM
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Haven't heard from the OP since Sept 22, which is not a long time, but would of thought there would be news by now on what course of action he took.
And then, he did say he was calling a lawyer, so maybe he was advised not to air the details on a public forum
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08-28-2020, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat
Haven't heard from the OP since Sept 22, which is not a long time, but would of thought there would be news by now on what course of action he took.
And then, he did say he was calling a lawyer, so maybe he was advised not to air the details on a public forum
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I think the quarantine is getting to you. You're losing track of time.
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08-28-2020, 11:50 AM
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Location: Virginia
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I know treading on thin ice discussing lawyers but I'm confused as to why someone would get a lawyer first and spend thousands of dollars that will never be recovered. And......... be without their camper for a couple of years while things are " worked out"
It just makes no sence to me ..... Sorry.......
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08-28-2020, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat
Haven't heard from the OP since Sept 22, which is not a long time
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That’s almost a year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat
he did say he was calling a lawyer, so maybe he was advised not to air the details on a public forum
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You’re most likely right about this.
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08-28-2020, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelRider
I think the quarantine is getting to you. You're losing track of time.
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LOL! Now isn't that the truth! Seems like lately I never know what day it is, and now I evidently have my months mixed up also! Yep, meant to type Aug
I will be glad when 2040 is over.........
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08-28-2020, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat
LOL! Now isn't that the truth! Seems like lately I never know what day it is, and now I evidently have my months mixed up also! Yep, meant to type Aug
I will be glad when 2040 is over.........
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LOL!
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08-28-2020, 12:10 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poorbabi
Do you have full replacement insurance? If so and your insurance feels its totalled, you will get what you paid for Trailer and can purchase a new one. I would call insurance and possibly an atty.
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Only time an attorney would be needed in a case like this is if your insurance company doesn't fulfill their contract with you.
If you buy insurance and suffer a loss due to someone else's actions they have a contract with you to make you whole. Same if it's your own fault.
One thing I'd look into is compensation for loss of use. I'd be really "heated" if my RV was made unavailable to me during camping season through no fault of my own.
On that note, if I was a dealer that wanted to take good care of a customer, I'd provide an RV (same type as one involved in "accident") for their use while the issues are being settled. A good used one from the lot as a "loaner".
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08-28-2020, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Only time an attorney would be needed in a case like this is if your insurance company doesn't fulfill their contract with you.
If you buy insurance and suffer a loss due to someone else's actions they have a contract with you to make you whole. Same if it's your own fault.
One thing I'd look into is compensation for loss of use. I'd be really "heated" if my RV was made unavailable to me during camping season through no fault of my own.
On that note, if I was a dealer that wanted to take good care of a customer, I'd provide an RV (same type as one involved in "accident") for their use while the issues are being settled. A good used one from the lot as a "loaner".
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He should be contacting his insurance so that they can go after the dealership and/or the dealership's insurance to cover this. His insurance should not be paying a dime toward fixing/replacing the RV. It is up to the dealer and their insurance to cover this. However, his insurance has a vested interest in having him made whole again.
In a case of a comprehensive claim, the insurance must compensate you based on the coverage you buy. Most people don't have new vehicle replacement coverage (or similar terms). Most people have coverage for the actual value of the item insured minus deductible. This often means that insurance is not making you whole when you suffer a loss unfortunately.
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08-28-2020, 01:40 PM
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PhD, Common Sense
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fairborn, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oaklevel
I know treading on thin ice discussing lawyers but I'm confused as to why someone would get a lawyer first and spend thousands of dollars that will never be recovered. And......... be without their camper for a couple of years while things are " worked out"
It just makes no sence to me ..... Sorry.......
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The first consultation with a lawyer is almost always free. He can explain your options, and will likely point out that you don’t want to spend thousands trying this in full court.
He can, for a small fee, produce a demand letter, which is probably the best first step.
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