View Poll Results: Which view do you prefer for the Camera System
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360 View (Birds Eye)
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Quad View (Right, Left, Hitch, Horizon)
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42.86% |
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08-03-2022, 09:50 AM
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#1
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 18,971
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Bird's Eye, 360 Camera, any interest?
We proto-typed one.
You get a top down view and a fish eye rear view. I did put a stick in the hitch and I could see it. (SO maybe a direct hitch view is not needed)
Those of you running the quad view now, how do you like that view vs this view?
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08-03-2022, 10:14 AM
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#2
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 575
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My 2017 only has the rear camera with the small monitor that covers the mirror but I can say this is amazing and if I were shopping for a new rig this would be a welcome option.
On a side note, you once mentioned having a drawer full of harnesses (and maybe even a camera with it) for the factory rear cam integration on the ram chassis. They collected because you used the standalone system to due to ram turning off the camera above a certain speed. Any chance those are still kicking around? I'd gladly pay shipping to help eliminate paperweights.
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08-03-2022, 10:31 AM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 18,971
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Boy, that was a long time ago. I think we have pitched all of that.
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08-03-2022, 10:37 AM
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#4
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 575
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I figured it couldn't hurt to ask before I go and buy such stuff. I'm planning to add a camera lower on the rear cap that can see the hitch and provide a better backing up view for getting into a site / hitching a trailer. I'll keep the one that feeds the mirror display for going down the road use though. Also going to add a front cam (i have done such on my 2014 ram 2500 using a jailbreak setup from customtronix) which is great for tight maneuvering as well.
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08-03-2022, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Bucks County North of Philadelphia
Posts: 158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
You get a top down view and a fish eye rear view. I did put a stick in the hitch and I could see it. (SO maybe a direct hitch view is not needed)
Those of you running the quad view now, how do you like that view vs this view?
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This is really cool. I think my concern would be with how "high" the image software accurately depicts the Birds Eye view. From my understanding multiple cameras are stitched together with software to create the birds eye view. I can see people immediately using this as a "Slide Clearance" reference camera and not getting out to physically spot obstacles. For instance, the tree limb that the software misses when its "stitching" the various cameras together to create the magic. That said, it might actually work like that and see those objects. I would be curious if you extend something like a pool noodle into the cameras view at various heights, where the Birds Eye sees it at its highest point, or loses view of it.
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08-03-2022, 03:02 PM
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#6
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 34
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I like the 360 bird's eye view. I have that feature on my Genesis and Kia and use it when parking for clearances in the corners, front, and back.
I'm not sure how comfortable I would be using the view for clearance when changing lanes while driving.
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08-03-2022, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Orcas Island
Posts: 339
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Our 2019 30FW has the rear view mirror mount with the singular view.
That would be great to have!
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08-03-2022, 04:02 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Harvey, LA
Posts: 941
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
We proto-typed one.
You get a top down view and a fish eye rear view. I did put a stick in the hitch and I could see it. (SO maybe a direct hitch view is not needed)
Those of you running the quad view now, how do you like that view vs this view?
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I love the birds eye view! Wish it was available when we bought our Sunseeker. Could this be made available as an add-on for existing MHs?
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2021 Forest River Sunseeker 2400B MBS
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08-03-2022, 04:07 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 18,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PDFOR3
I love the birds eye view! Wish it was available when we bought our Sunseeker. Could this be made available as an add-on for existing MHs?
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Well, anything is possible. Just depends on how much you want to spend. requires wiring to 6 cameras I think.
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08-04-2022, 06:58 AM
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#10
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: North Georgia or NE Florida
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There is no substitute for properly adjusted mirrors, but a continuous feed "Birds Eye 360 view" would be a great tool to monitor sneaky 4-wheelers in your blind-spots. I agree it doesn't replace the need for a spotter in tight campgrounds.
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08-04-2022, 11:43 AM
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Norwood Auto Italia
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Montana & TX
Posts: 1,493
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I have found these software applications to enhance FoV to be gimmicky a nd lacking in functional application except as an indicator in a security set up. I have tried them on a boat and a plane but always went back to the highest definition conventional view to make a directional, speed, convergence or control decision.
We have taken the plane to some iffy places and one of the crew has to sleep on board using a proximity alarm and this type of software to ascertain a threat. Inevitably they would switch from the broad indication of a 360 view to the cameras best positioned to provide a decision based on the blurry distorted 360 view and the proximity indicator. We disabled the package and upgraded the key cameras and by switching between them had a much more useful picture of the threat or event. I suggest the same is the case with the RV.
I would like to have an integrated front facing camera with a built in recording device for the front and the rear wide view camera. When my current 4-pane completely fails, I will upgrade to that but its an investment.
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08-04-2022, 01:03 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 18,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vlamgat
I would like to have an integrated front facing camera with a built in recording device for the front and the rear wide view camera. When my current 4-pane completely fails, I will upgrade to that but its an investment.
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I'll take that as a no.
Anyway for about $200, Kenwood makes a plug and play forward facing camera with DVR capability. others have already added it.
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08-04-2022, 04:08 PM
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#13
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
I'll take that as a no.
Anyway for about $200, Kenwood makes a plug and play forward facing camera with DVR capability. others have already added it.
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With all the dash cams etc that everyone runs these days my thought would be an option to record the cameras that are included now.
I would be interested at least since it would have recording when hit in the rear or side as well.
Just my thoughts.
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08-04-2022, 04:10 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumpster808
With all the dash cams etc that everyone runs these days my thought would be an option to record the cameras that are included now.
I would be interested at least since it would have recording when hit in the rear or side as well.
Just my thoughts.
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The 360 camera does have a DVR
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08-05-2022, 06:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 575
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
The 360 camera does have a DVR
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That makes it even more attractive if it records all channels. The typical dahs cam only records in front ( some have rear cameras but typically not going to be compatible with the size of an RV) but having all the way around would be great for capturing any incident such as a t-bone, a side swipe, etc.
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08-05-2022, 07:58 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
We proto-typed one.
You get a top down view and a fish eye rear view. I did put a stick in the hitch and I could see it. (SO maybe a direct hitch view is not needed)
Those of you running the quad view now, how do you like that view vs this view?
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I could go for this. I'm slow to locate the side views on the quad screen. This would be easier. I find I use the distance rear view the most and this has a large view area with the fisheye.
I can't use the quad view at night in any mode. With my eyes I can't make sense of anything and I don't need any extra glare. So if this had usable (for me) night viewing, I would be sold.
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08-05-2022, 08:01 AM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Akron, OH
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My new Ram 1500 has the 360 view, it is really a nice feature to have, I think backing into tight RV spots around trees etc... this could be helpful and maybe save some money on repairs (LOL). I like the DVR aspect whether it be 360 or just front/rear. I have the Kenwood front camera now that records, but would love the have a rear recording as well. The best part is, that you (Brian) and Dynamax are always looking into new technology to make our units even better.
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08-05-2022, 09:04 AM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
The 360 camera does have a DVR
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Well that makes it interesting.
Know you said hold onto our wallets when initially discussing. What is the $$ for the system, or are you looking to donate one for some real world feedback [emoji3]. Think I know the answer to that but never hurts to ask.
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08-05-2022, 02:51 PM
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Commercial Member
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Location: Bristol, IN
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08-05-2022, 03:45 PM
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Norwood Auto Italia
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Montana & TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
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Those are horses of a different color. The specs seems to imply that the quad views are individually available and are recorded. This is what we have plus seemingly better cameras, digital recording and a 360 fish eye. I would buy it in a heartbeat if I could find someone to fit it. Video wiring just makes no sense to me.
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