Isata 3 Documentation

[Magnatudes]

Brian,
I would like to think that Dynamax supplies a schematic diagram of all electrical & plumbing as part of an overall documentation package. Country Coach even supplied diagrams indicating the location of devices, routing & termination points. All wiring & terminal blocks were numbered & labeled at all ends so anyone servicing could easily troubleshoot. Some of us may not have the luxury of having a Dynamax service center nearby. Some of us may be savvy enough to troubleshoot issues ourselves. To what extent are these Isata 3s documented and will this documention be supplied to the customers?

[bclemens]

We provide a fairly generic owners manual along with appliance manuals on each and every device that we install. We provide that data on a flash drive as well as online and smart phone app.

We do not provide electrical or plumbing schematics although we are workings towards that. I could hire people dedicated to do those things, but then we would be priced closer to a Country Coach as well.

The other issue is the pace of change. Some guys will produce a vehicle and make zero changes until the next model year. We have been rapidly evolving. Both ways have their pro and cons.

[Magnatudes]

Do you at least label wires. How do your electrical installers know what wire goes where? There must be some sort of drawings.

[bclemens]

All of our stuff is harnessed. There are electrical schematics, but they are not user friendly. It is on the list for a storage archive for pdf's and a process to maintain that archive. Once we get that done it will be made available to all.

[Magnatudes]

Originally Posted by bclemens

All of our stuff is harnessed. There are electrical schematics, but they are not user friendly. It is on the list for a storage archive for pdf's and a process to maintain that archive. Once we get that done it will be made available to all.

Great, thanks!

[cavie]

Originally Posted by Magnatudes

Do you at least label wires. How do your electrical installers know what wire goes where? There must be some sort of drawings.

RV's are no different than residential electrical wiring. There are no electric drawing on your new house. Hasn't been in the 45 years I have been wiring them. The is a national electric code to follow but nobody cares if a wire goes from point a to point b, c, and d or c,b,a, d.

The only thing the electrician cares about is things like Locations of outlets and being on the properly sized wire. In a house, they have certain spacing requirements. It's all remembered in their heads. Nobody puts all this stuff on plans. The different requirements and locations are shown but not the daisy chain of the wiring. The electricians are smart trained people and just know the rules and follow them in their heads. They know how to get from point a to b without a roadmap. While wiring they will make a cheat sheet called a schedule at the electric panel to identify what wire the ran where with markings on the end of the romex so they know which one went to the micro, which one went to the bath etc. They put that info on the panel door then throw the cheat sheet away.

The same thing goes for the plumbing. There is no roadmap of the waterlines. There is just no need for it.

[Magnatudes]

Originally Posted by cavie

RV's are no different than residential electrical wiring. There are no electric drawing on your new house. Hasn't been in the 45 years I have been wiring them. The is a national electric code to follow but nobody cares if a wire goes from point a to point b, c, and d or c,b,a, d.

The only thing the electrician cares about is things like Locations of outlets and being on the properly sized wire. In a house, they have certain spacing requirements. It's all remembered in their heads. Nobody puts all this stuff on plans. The different requirements and locations are shown but not the daisy chain of the wiring. The electricians are smart trained people and just know the rules and follow them in their heads. They know how to get from point a to b without a roadmap. While wiring they will make a cheat sheet called a schedule at the electric panel to identify what wire the ran where with markings on the end of the romex so they know which one went to the micro, which one went to the bath etc. They put that info on the panel door then throw the cheat sheet away.

The same thing goes for the plumbing. There is no roadmap of the waterlines. There is just no need for it.

WHEW! Uh, OK! I guess the only wiring in a motorhome must be Romex. Forget about all the 12volt stuff. Forget about from-to lists. Forget about harnesses, routing, wire numbering/color codes, connector identifiers, connector locations & connector pin assignments. All of this should be remembered in our heads. Thanks, Cavie.

[cavie]

Originally Posted by Magnatudes

WHEW! Uh, OK! I guess the only wiring in a motorhome must be Romex. Forget about all the 12volt stuff. Forget about from-to lists. Forget about harnesses, routing, wire numbering/color codes, connector identifiers, connector locations & connector pin assignments. All of this should be remembered in our heads. Thanks, Cavie.

Welcome to the real world Butter Cup.

[Magnatudes]

Originally Posted by cavie

Welcome to the real world Butter Cup.

Another stable genius! I wouldn't dare challenge you to a game of wit.