I lost all faith in most RV ..... Regarding this issue specifically, I will use the item in the picture before I plug in. If you don't know how to use this simple instrument, learn. It will be worth its $3-20 cost the first time ....
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I put in a hard wired EMS made by Progressive Industries (hw30c) in my Isata 3. Mounted it in the area underneath the cooktop by removing the drawer. That is near where the power enters the breaker panel. Just remove the incoming lead (orange 10ga romex) to the breaker panel and make it the incoming lead to the EMS, then add a short piece of 10ga romex back to the panel. This puts it downstream of the transfer switch giving you protection in case something goes wrong with the generator. Others will argue it needs to be upstream of the transfer switch so that the transfer switch is protected. I'm not sure where the hardwired setup goes in that case.
I put in a hard wired EMS made by Progressive Industries (hw30c) in my Isata 3. Mounted it in the area underneath the cooktop by removing the drawer. That is near where the power enters the breaker panel. Just remove the incoming lead (orange 10ga romex) to the breaker panel and make it the incoming lead to the EMS, then add a short piece of 10ga romex back to the panel. This puts it downstream of the transfer switch giving you protection in case something goes wrong with the generator. Others will argue it needs to be upstream of the transfer switch so that the transfer switch is protected. I'm not sure where the hardwired setup goes in that case.
'not a case of arguing. PI surge protectors do not work properly with some generators or inverters. After extensive research and field trials, I would strictly limit them to the use for "shore power" regardless of hard wired or portable! If hard wired, ensure they will only be in the shore power side of any wiring and obviously before entering coach.
Regardless, based on some/many horror stories, I would still check the power source with a meter first before plugging in!
That’s all I want, something between where unit plugs and our isata 3. Have seen power drop at parks when everyone using air. Just heard of portable ones walking away
There was a pole on one of the RV forums asking if anyone knew someone that actually had a portable surge protector stollen. Know one did but everyone had heard that they get stolen. I believe it is a rare occurrence and you c am always put a lock on it.
'not a case of arguing. PI surge protectors do not work properly with some generators or inverters. After extensive research and field trials, I would strictly limit them to the use for "shore power" regardless of hard wired or portable! If hard wired, ensure they will only be in the shore power side of any wiring and obviously before entering coach.
Regardless, based on some/many horror stories, I would still check the power source with a meter first before plugging in!
Mine works fine with the generator.
Does your $20.00 meter check the hertz? It probably doesn't matter at the pole, but with a generator, that can vary. I want that variable monitored.
Unless the RV park is using a generator to supply power, the chance of getting power other than 60Hz is going to be really rare. You check the frequency of the power at home all the time?
As far as measuring the voltage at the power pole, once you apply a load, that 120V you measured at the pole can drop a LOT if there are resistive connections.
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On my solera s , I had installed a sureguard protector hard wired in. Asked about getting one for my 2018 isata 3 and was told systems
Are smart and don’t need this item anymore
Just wondering if any other new owners installed one. Don’t want to waste money
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When we got our Berkshire, I gave the tech our 50AMP Progressive EMS (and a Hughes Autoformer) to install before our PDI.
During the PDI, the tech said we had the best protected coach out there - our Progressive EMS was protecting the factory installed EMS LOL.
So, the moral of the story is, see what the factory is installing in your coach - it may already have a EMS installed.
FWIW, I know of no mainstream coach manufacturer that factory installs a Hughes Autoformer and IMHO, having a Hughes is just as important as having a EMS.
The real good news is now Hughes is combining a EMS with their Autoformer for a all in one solution!
For those with generators, many times you need to bond the neutral and ground together. RV's don't have the neutral - ground bonded at the control/breaker panel like your house does. PI EMS sees this condition and gives an error. To remedy this you take a plug and connect a jumper across the neutral and ground prongs, then plug it in a 15 or 20 amp outlet on the generator.
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I have a 2018 I5 36DS and not that wise when it comes to electricity. Question: can I use the progressive industries EMS-PT50X when using an adapter so I can plug into my 20 amp house service?
I have a 2018 I5 36DS and not that wise when it comes to electricity. Question: can I use the progressive industries EMS-PT50X when using an adapter so I can plug into my 20 amp house service?
Yes.
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