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09-28-2021, 04:20 PM
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Borg Dually valve stems
I have a 2016 Sunseeker with 25,000 miles. Just hade my 2nd flat tire due to a bad valve stem. It has the oem rubber stems with some flimsy extensions. My tire guy says I should replace with the metal Borg ones and that the oem are not ok for 80# tires. Any suggestion? I assume not a DIY project since you will have to break the tire bead. I see some posts online where people advise against metal ones.
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2010 Honda CRV- SMI Stay In Play Duo
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09-28-2021, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SSmbs
I have a 2016 Sunseeker with 25,000 miles. Just hade my 2nd flat tire due to a bad valve stem. It has the oem rubber stems with some flimsy extensions. My tire guy says I should replace with the metal Borg ones and that the oem are not ok for 80# tires. Any suggestion? I assume not a DIY project since you will have to break the tire bead. I see some posts online where people advise against metal ones.
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See these metal stems: https://yourtireshopsupply.com/produ...tems-dl1sp13fr
There have been NUMEROUS discussions on the Solera and MBS forums. Here's one: https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ers-83192.html
I think most of us bought from "yourtireshopsupply". Call them if you are all unsure about which (of many) stems you need.
Dave
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09-28-2021, 08:01 PM
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I checked at one small tire shop today and they quoted $20 per tire to install the Borg dually valves so $120. Some people to get your wheels balanced after installation. Necessary? Anyone use a national tire chain store to install.
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2010 Honda CRV- SMI Stay In Play Duo
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09-29-2021, 04:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SSmbs
I checked at one small tire shop today and they quoted $20 per tire to install the Borg dually valves so $120. Some people to get your wheels balanced after installation. Necessary? Anyone use a national tire chain store to install.
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I have the ones DaveJordan linked. Need balancing after install and would also recommend a truck tire shop for install.
Really important that your wheel simulators are secure and can't move. Otherwise they can vibrate against the stems and wear wholes in them.
I placed 3/8 Id clear plastic tubing over mine to help prevent chaffing.
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09-29-2021, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikegjax
Need balancing after install and would also recommend a truck tire shop for install.
Really important that your wheel simulators are secure and can't move. Otherwise they can vibrate against the stems and wear wholes in them.
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What Mike said. I tried a neighborhood chain store, but they really didn't have the knowledge or equipment to do the job.
I tied my simulators in place with stainless steel zip ties so that they can't move.
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09-29-2021, 11:09 AM
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The Borg DL1SP13FR kit is currently on backorder but I plan on ordering when available. Are the Borg front and rear stems longer than our OEM. I have a difficult time checking pressure in the front and rear due to the simulators.
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2016 Sunseeker MBS W
2010 Honda CRV- SMI Stay In Play Duo
Previous-5th wheel, Class C, tent trailer, tent
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09-29-2021, 12:48 PM
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I never had the problem with valve stems, so I guess that don't give me the authority to talk about the problem, but I felt the factory hose system was OK with the support grommet they put in the wheel hole. I feel it was the simulator moving that caused the problem. At first I had my simulators held on with metal zip ties, but ended up just leaving them off after while. (lot easier to check pressure that way).
I was going to take the approach of "keep in an eye on it, to see if I make it to the first tire change, but replace with metal ones at that point.
I really wanted a flat disk wheel cover like you see on the new big rig tractors (aerodynamic) but that would also be a PITA to remove to check air pressure. BUT on the other hand, when your on the road, a laser thermometer reading also will tell you if you have a tire going low, but it will not warn you of a quick deflate like when I valve stem goes bad.
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09-29-2021, 12:57 PM
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My 2016 came with plastic like extensions that have a rod inside that opens the actual valve stem. They should be a bit longer for easy fills.
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2010 Honda CRV- SMI Stay In Play Duo
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09-29-2021, 02:31 PM
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Borg valve stems
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSmbs
I have a 2016 Sunseeker with 25,000 miles. Just hade my 2nd flat tire due to a bad valve stem. It has the oem rubber stems with some flimsy extensions. My tire guy says I should replace with the metal Borg ones and that the oem are not ok for 80# tires. Any suggestion? I assume not a DIY project since you will have to break the tire bead. I see some posts online where people advise against metal ones.
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When I first got my class c I was totally frustrated with wheelmaster valve stem extensions leaking and setting off my TPMS. Then I purchased installed steel valve stems by Borg . Those valve stems solved my problem.
Contact Kelly at 818 352 8717 ext 111. She's with yourtireshopsupply.com and will find the right valve stems yor you. Good Luck.
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09-29-2021, 05:55 PM
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I have a 3171 DS class C --
I purchased my brass valve stems from a NAPA store and they worked fine........for a couple of years. These original were installed by Bauer Built of Mankato, MN., great place to do business. Of course, the inside one has failed first while on a trip.
Ozarko Tire in Charleston, MO removed the stem, put on my replacement with a tiny bit of liquid rubber bead seal to the stem before installing.
Excellent job on a Saturday morning, no less. Happy I stopped here.
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10-11-2021, 07:15 PM
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Had my Borg valve stems installed today for $120. So much easier to add air. When I got home I installed 6 Tyrmate sensors. I haven't put the simulators back on yet and am thinking about not using them. My MH is part silver so the silver rims don't look bad. Any options other than simulators?
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10-12-2021, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SSmbs
Had my Borg valve stems installed today for $120. So much easier to add air. When I got home I installed 6 Tyrmate sensors. I haven't put the simulators back on yet and am thinking about not using them. My MH is part silver so the silver rims don't look bad. Any options other than simulators?
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I've been using the Borg stems for years now and they have been great. An experienced truck tire shop is the key.
Some have installed aluminum rims and don't use the simulators. Costly.
I like the simulators but will replace them with bolt-ons. There are several manufactures that have them available. I had decided on a set, then changed my mind.
The original equipment simulators work until you remove them. The problem arises reinstall them without paying attention to where the balance weights are located on the rim. The clips will be damaged if you have them over the balance weight when installing.
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12-02-2021, 07:48 PM
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Bilmet01
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Hello. I intend to install Borg dually valve stems for my 2015 Forester MBS once I buy new tires sometime within next year ( as recommended by many on the forums ).
However, I recently lost my left rear simulator on the way home from a trip in late September ( had no zip ties on ) and soon after realized I could not check the air in my tire at end of my factory supplied extensions. ☹ Did not seem to be actually losing air though?
So brought RV to my local tire shop to see what they thought and tech ( after removing outer dually ) confirmed that the 4 in extension was not working for some reason. This extension had metal tube inside. They do not carry these type extenders and he suggested Camping World but I confirmed that do not carry them.
Attached is a pic of my OEM set up ( not pictured is a round stabilizer that sits in 1.5 round hole with 4" in extension behind and 2" / 45 degree extender in front ). I can see similar 2" / 45 degree extender online but not seeing anything similar to my 4" in OEM extender. :-(
Does anyone know where I can find a similar 4" extender for sale online or know the best substitute for me in attaching to my rubber valve stem of the inner wheel?
Again, just hoping to get by with a similar OEM config until I go with the borg steel valve stems once I get new tires.
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12-02-2021, 07:51 PM
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Bilmet01
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forgot to attach pic!
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12-03-2021, 12:00 PM
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"I really wanted a flat disk wheel cover like you see on the new big rig tractors"
Search for Moon Disc , there are dozens.
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