Lippert step recall update inquiry

[Still Kickin]

This thread was past the period to post this inquiry http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...e-98741-3.html was wondering if these replacements are ongoing by members. I havn't been notified, and now I'm wondering if I will be, as it has been going on almost a year, based on the original thread.

[MNtraveler]

Nothing at that link about a recall that I see.


Land of 10,000 Lakes
2016 Forester MBS 2401R
Nights camped 2016: 32; RV to date: 35

[bubbles]

The recall is not for replacement of the steps but to install a kit that is supposed to keep the main pivot bolt from falling out when it breaks. The adjustable step linkage is also replaced. Don't think this kit will keep bolts from breaking.

[Mr Havercamp]

Originally Posted by bubbles

The recall is not for replacement of the steps but to install a kit that is supposed to keep the main pivot bolt from falling out when it breaks. The adjustable step linkage is also replaced. Don't think this kit will keep bolts from breaking.

Not a surprise at all to me coming from that company.

Sounds like they're floating you a

[DaveJordan]

Originally Posted by MNtraveler

Nothing at that link about a recall that I see.

I think the OP link points to the third page in that thread - check the first post on the first page ...

Dave

[MNtraveler]

Originally Posted by DaveJordan

I think the OP link points to the third page in that thread - check the first post on the first page ...

Dave

Must be some site glitch. This is what I get at that link.





Land of 10,000 Lakes
2016 Forester MBS 2401R
Nights camped 2016: 32; RV to date: 35

[DaveJordan]

Originally Posted by MNtraveler

Must be some site glitch. This is what I get at that link.

Yeah, that doesn't look right! Maybe you need to clear your browser cache or something.

Here's a slightly different link (maybe?):

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ice-98741.html

Dave

[Barry11405]

Originally Posted by Still Kickin

This thread was past the period to post this inquiry http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...e-98741-3.html was wondering if these replacements are ongoing by members. I havn't been notified, and now I'm wondering if I will be, as it has been going on almost a year, based on the original thread.

We did the recall on our 37 Coachman Encounter. We received a recall letter and I simply called Liepert advised them I had received the notice gave them my vin number and they gave me a reference number to give to our RV service representative who then called Liepert who mailed them the kit. Took about 2 hours for thrm to install. Hope this helps.

[MNtraveler]

Originally Posted by DaveJordan

Yeah, that doesn't look right! Maybe you need to clear your browser cache or something.

Here's a slightly different link (maybe?):

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ice-98741.html

Dave

That worked, thanks. I have reported the link issues seen here and elsewhere to the mods.


Land of 10,000 Lakes
2016 Forester MBS 2401R
Nights camped 2016: 32; RV to date: 35

[designfly]

https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...recall-faq.pdf

[Still Kickin]

Thank you very much, it told me I am not in recall status as mine is a one step. Hope this helps others who have a different set-up. Thanks again.

[FFred]

Has anyone worked out a way to quiet the step underway ?

Going over a highway seam causes a rattle that sounds like a trash can is bring drug under the MBS.

No its not touching just shaking and making NOISE!

[Still Kickin]

Try this; wiggle the step from side to side, in both the retracted and extended positions. If you expierence lateral movement, where you sense it may be the source of the rattle in transit, you can tighten the arm pivot bolts. I caution you to not over tighten, as that would cause increased load on the deployment motor assembly which triggers the black box controller to temporarily cuts power in deployment /retraction mode. That thermal stop is a safty feature to the motor. The bolts pass through brass bushings, allowing free but snug movement of the single step.

Try this procedure if that appears to be the issue. I'll assume all connection bolts of the step unit itself to the frame of the MBS are in proper order.

[bubbles]

Originally Posted by Still Kickin

I caution you to not over tighten, as that would cause increased load on the deployment motor assembly which triggers the black box controller to temporarily cuts power in deployment /retraction mode. That thermal stop is a safty feature to the motor.

Actually, there are no limit switches or mechanical stops to shut down the motor when extending/retracting. The motor has no idea where the steps are and doesn't care. A preset maximum current limit is what shuts the motor off no matter what may have caused the current to reach that preset limit (fully extended/retracted/curb/tight bolts etc.). There is no special safety feature. One shouldn't panic if the steps are stopped by hitting an obstruction (curb, etc.) when extending. The stop occurs due to normal operation. Just clarifying.

[Still Kickin]

Not true. Let me add there was no mention of "limit switches". The black controller box has intelligent electronics incorporated into it. There is a thermal protect circuit in the controller. I have first hand expierence where a binding situation caused the controller to momentarily cut power on several occasions due to excess binding above motor force design spec. Not sure about your comment and your specific expierence with this stair set, but I invite you to comment back.

[bubbles]

I know you didn't mention switches. I mentioned no switches to illustrate that the motor has no other way of shutting down other than high current. And any binding of bolts etc. may create the high current draw to shut the motor down but this is exactly what happens when the steps are fully extended or retracted. If the motor tries to drive past the current limit set there is a problem with the controller. We are talking about Lippert steps/Kwikee.

[Still Kickin]

Exactly.

[bubbles]

I was also pointing out that there is no thermal stop safety feature. If you equate "thermal" with "current" it is not a safety feature it is in fact what is used for normal operation. The only safety feature, in this respect, is probably either motor burn up or controller failure.

[Still Kickin]

Uncle! Increase resitance creates heat, thus the thermal reference. As to your reference to motor "burn up", the system has a dedicated 20amp fuse, to avoid that outcome
So, have you expierenced any issues with your step deployment? I would be interested in your actual expierence with this step design discussed in this thread.

[bubbles]

Originally Posted by Still Kickin

Uncle! Increase resitance creates heat, thus the thermal reference. As to your reference to motor "burn up", the system has a dedicated 20amp fuse, to avoid that outcome
So, have you expierenced any issues with your step deployment? I would be interested in your actual expierence with this step design discussed in this thread.

There are no fuses in this system that were installed to prevent failure of any of its components. The fuses will blow (hopefully) in reaction to a component issue that could be a failure and prevent wire and perhaps other items catastrophic failures. However, if that component is going to fail, it will fail and have to be replaced. My experience with Kwikee and Lippert steps is limited to 16 years as a user with numerous issues that I had to address and correct. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but I have been able to troubleshoot and repair my steps without any outside agency help (he said knocking on wood). I'm done.