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Old 06-01-2021, 02:40 PM   #1
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My experience with a new RV: Vengeance Rogue Armored 351g2

I'm going to document my new journey here in hopes of both having a record as well as absorbing all advice and feedback.

This is our first RV. We are selling our house in Portland, OR and hoping to ride out the crazy RE bubble. Our goal is to buy some land and build a small home (not quite tiny, but under 500sqft.)

We're foregoing a truck purchase at the start bc of the massive cost + insurance. It just doesn't make a lot of fiscal sense if we're planning on mostly being stationary ($250/trip.)

I'm a big DIY'er and looking fwd to modding our new home to be what we want.

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Old 06-01-2021, 03:31 PM   #2
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Is like to start by thanking this forum for the advice already given as its already proven helpful.

I printed out the PDI sheets and informed the sales reps I'd be taking 2-4h for my walk through. Every time, he dismissed my concerns and said it wouldn't take that long.

Then,we noticed they booked the transport the SAME TIME as the training & PDI. Try said they'd handle it and the training wouldn't take long. I reiterated my expectations for taking my time and they said that I would have as much time as I needed.

They then bumped our training 2h later, which again prompted me to ask how that will work with the training time. "No problem," they said.

We also noticed they were hurriedly installing our slide covers. They has two staff out that day, they said, so running behind. I'm thinking, I gave them 3 weeks (or as much time as they needed) to install everything. We sat for an hour while they worked on it. We got the tour with dirt, sawdust, and public fingerprints everywhere - definitely not clean. The Queen was very displeased and disappointed.

They also couldn't get the washer/dryer in. Refunded.
We noticed the vent covers weren't installed. Refunded.
Missing a battery - added last minute.
The Insta-hot water heater never got above warm, which was frustrating. The trainer kept yelping and snatching his hand out from under it but it was cold again by the time I felt. Unsure what was happening.

Terrible start, IMO.

2h into my training, the transport driver was visibly upset and I told them then that I was nowhere near satisfied and to send em home unless they wanted to wait until I was finished (another 30-60m.)

At this point the trainer was off work and the paperwork guy escorted me around the RV and answered the questions that were left.

They claimed insurance reasons for not letting me on the roof to inspect seals. I'll have to claim any of that after delivery.

Although the dealership was a mixed bag (friendly people who didn't have it together) I was really surprised that I wasn't finding the plethora of issues that appear to be the norm. Maybe these guys did a great job of a dealership PDI before I got to it?

We rescheduled the transport for Thursday, so hopefully it goes smoothly.

Thanks for reading about my adventures!

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Old 06-01-2021, 10:49 PM   #3
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The typos are killing me.
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:04 PM   #4
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A first mod is looking to be dumping both mattresses (we already received our Brooklyn mattress for the master.)

Is there any use for these unused mattresses? Anything other than the dump?

I received struts for the master under-bed storage, will be taking the bedframe under inspection and most likely reinforcing it. I read on a thread here to pay attention to the middle support. Also repurposing the carport bed frame on struts into storage. I'll possibly need to upgrade the struts, but not going overboard with the weight. All this extra bedding is a waste for our use and will be converted to storage.

I'm already excited about the projects!
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:16 PM   #5
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Although the dealership was a mixed bag (friendly people who didn't have it together) I was really surprised that I wasn't finding the plethora of issues that appear to be the norm.
The general rule of thumb is that the plethora of issues will not happen on the dealer's lot. They will happen on the maiden and subsequent camping trips. And some issues will even have the nasty habit of waiting until the day after the trailer goes out of warranty to show up.

One example - even if you plan on never boondocking or dry camping, simply turn off the circuit breaker at the power pedestal and camp for 24 hours with no shore power. Same is true for water, fill up the fresh water tank and unhook city water and exercise everything with water for 24 hours - take showers, etc.
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Thank you for that advice. I'll make sure we do some practice boondock runs.
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Old 06-11-2021, 04:19 PM   #7
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We got successfully moved!

The RV lot ended up getting our vent covers in last minute and installing them.

We had an E1 fault on our tankless water heater and after some internetting I found a "reset code" by turning hot water on/off 3x in a row. This fixed it! I'm a sucker for a long hot shower and this thing was wonderful. Hot water heaters just don't hold enough water for me to take my time, shave, and wash my hair, so it's a luxury I haven't had since our condo with a shared hot water.

We're almost done selling the house, so we're headed back to the RV tonight.

My weekend projects:

Install the weBoost mobile antenna.
Install the Latch.it locks (I love these are all metal-why get a plastic one?)
Ideate pass-through storage setup & mods.
Continue moving our stuff in.

A side note: we were very impressed with just how friendly and helpful our new neighbors at the park are! I'm really looking forward to learning from the older generation there. I forgot, living in the "big city," how much more friendly and relatable rural folks are. It's gonna be a positive change for us and very needed.
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Old 06-12-2021, 11:56 PM   #8
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This weekend we arrived on Friday with a full carload. The door was wide open and the steps down. Screen door was closed. I cautiously inspected everything and nothing appeared to be missing or disturbed.

We had a conversation about the door being locked, so we both are 100% on the stairs being up when we left. No one knew anything. Pretty crazy start to the weekend.

I moved the stuff in and started unboxing the new locks. Had the first installed that night before I relaxed for the evening. Got the second one installed Saturday. Now we at least have peace of mind moving forward.

We overfilled our grey tank, sadly, bc 20ft of slink wasn't enough and we forgot to check the level before the queen took a shower. The extra 15ft tube came while we we out to breakfast so that was my first project once we got back.
I discovered water all over the pass-through floor behind the access panels. It's all electrical components and wires back there so it felt pretty sketch. I unplugged the RV then crawled up in there with a couple of towels and tried my best to mop it all up. I found a loose drain pipe connection so I tightened everything I could see. Ran the shower and had no leaks so I'm hoping that was it.

What I'm going to have to look into is the AC leaking water down the side of the RV when it's running. That's gonna get ugly quick. It's a steady stream right down the galley slide out so it's pooling in the window trim, water access panel, etc. Doesn't feel good, for sure.

Any ideas, advice, or suggestions?
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:13 AM   #9
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We had an E1 fault on our tankless water heater and after some internetting I found a "reset code" by turning hot water on/off 3x in a row. This fixed it! I'm a sucker for a long hot shower and this thing was wonderful. Hot water heaters just don't hold enough water for me to take my time, shave, and wash my hair, so it's a luxury I haven't had since our condo with a shared hot water.
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We overfilled our grey tank, sadly, bc 20ft of slink wasn't enough and we forgot to check the level before the queen took a shower. The extra 15ft tube came while we we out to breakfast so that was my first project once we got back.
I discovered water all over the pass-through floor behind the access panels. It's all electrical components and wires back there so it felt pretty sketch. I unplugged the RV then crawled up in there with a couple of towels and tried my best to mop it all up. I found a loose drain pipe connection so I tightened everything I could see. Ran the shower and had no leaks so I'm hoping that was it.

What I'm going to have to look into is the AC leaking water down the side of the RV when it's running. That's gonna get ugly quick. It's a steady stream right down the galley slide out so it's pooling in the window trim, water access panel, etc. Doesn't feel good, for sure.

Any ideas, advice, or suggestions?

When I read your first post about the long showers, my first thought was I hope they know that water has to go somewhere. It's one of those live and learn things which you have now.


As for the air conditioner, you can sometimes change the level a little bit of the RV to have the condensation follow the path of gravity. However, you should have gutters/drip rails on the RV that would catch this water and divert it to the front or back of the RV depending on the level of the RV. If it's coming down the side, then you may have a clogged gutter or a seam not sealed. This will require you to have a ladder or maybe to get on top of the RV if it has a walk-on type roof.


I did notice you stated in a previous post that the dealer refused to let you on the roof while it was at their lot.
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I can see one side of the gutters/drip rail at the 2:48 mark of this FR video.




I also saw from the video that it's supposed to have a ladder with the RV at the 2:32 mark
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:52 PM   #11
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You are right on the money, it's looking like!
I noticed the gutter on the other side of the RV and then figured that's where it's failing. I'll get up there this weekend to check it out. I'll need to research what to patch it with (silicone, caulk?)

I sadly purchased a bunch of combo barrel locks to replace the storage compartments, but the whole mechanism is a sham! Meaning, no matter the lock, the insert through the styrofoam door has nothing to hold it firm. So, what do y'all do? We'd like to use all this storage, but have to trust it's secure.

I've seen a few door locks on there, but that seems so costly. I figured we could use the two original locks that came with the camper for the pass-through, but would need a 3rd for the front access to do anything.

There has to be something the FT's are doing to secure storage. :thinking:

I've got fiber run to a nearby pole by this weekend, so I'll have that project to work through, as well. I have coax inputs, so may piggyback through that inlet.
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:26 PM   #12
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Well, until I figure out how to secure the storage, I figured removing the pull handles would go a long way. At least I'm not /helping/ someone get in there. Click image for larger version

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I would not use silicone on your roof or gutter. Dicor or eternabond tape are good choices.
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I would not use silicone on your roof or gutter. Dicor or eternabond tape are good choices.
Thank you!

After inspection, there's no leak - the RV is either not auto-leveling correctly or the gutter has a dip in it. I manually tilted the RV to the other side & front and it all flowed out.

I was concerned about the fridge, so I auto-leveled again and ordered some level stickers.
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Update: it's our final week in the house, I spent the past few nights in the RV and loved it.

I cut up a 2x8 I bought pre-inflation and made a bed brace for the center of the bed since there was just the plywood. No fasteners, just cut the width of the boards out and coaxed em together.

A silly thing I did was add two red reflective stickers to the back decal.

My retired neighbor came over to offer advice (which I took) to get rid of the panels hiding the service area in the pass-through. I had them bent around while I crawled in there to route the ethernet and coax. I'm going to get rid of the middle barrier for more space once I've cleaned up the mess of wiring in there. His was amazing, but he literally unplugged everything, loomed it up and mounted it up on the wall. #goals

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I learned a lot recently!

Our water pressure was slowly dwindling down until it wouldn't even activate the hot water. Would barely flow thru the shower, so was basically useless. I went to inquire at the RV office and they confirmed that during summer their well gets low, reducing pressure.
We stuck it out, searching the forums for solutions. We eventually read to use the onboard water pump. It worked! We had pressure!

After a week, we realized that we didn't have enough pressure to refill the tank. The fill is just a switch from city to tank fill, not it's own port. I purchased a fill tube tool but unfortunately it's not compatible with our setup. The water goes in then UP to a T (Anderson valve?) so it takes pressure to get in.

After we exhausted our water supply, I started monkeying around with everything when I discovered that my online water filter was gunked up. A replaced it and everything worked again!!

Apparently, there's a LOT of slime etc in the water bc that filter was blocked up solid in under a month.

Whew! Crisis avoided. On to the next...
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The tank vent was open to the basement so I popped the screen out & used that to run my ethernet. I found a nice wire grommet for the hole, but not excited about pulling gear out of my basement to pull then rerun that ethernet back into the house.
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Next on the list is my Power Watchdog unit.

I can't locate the transfer box, though! My power hookup goes straight into the undercarriage.

I can't find any mention of how ppl do this. Should I just start opening things up under there?

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My 371 has the transfer switch in the box next to the generator where the batteries are stored. I would check there first.
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