RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-17-2020, 01:24 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
ernest917's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: On Another Adventure
Posts: 2,351
Hunker Down Time??

We all thought travel this past Summer was going to be difficult and surprisingly it was a lot easier than we thought ....

I worked as a tour guide at The Crazy Horse Memorial in Custer, SD and we were blown away by the size of visitor crowds daily... Packed out!!!

Summer 2021, Iím afraid is going to be totally different.... Hopefully Iím 100% wrong but I worry that I wonít be...

I expect our country to go into a big-time lockdown which will affect EVERYTHING!!! Travel will most likely suffer tremendously as well as everything else in our country...

All of us full-timers really need to be in place, a place that wonít close and make us leave like COE, BLM and NFCG all did this year....

Find a CG and hunker down because itís not going to be pretty... We move into our CG December 1st and plan to stay there as long as it takes...

Get your TP, water and such because itíll all be go quickly - again!!!!

Donít get me wrong - I hope Iím totally wrong but politics aside, everything Iím seeing and reading is definitely pointing in this direction...

On the bright side maybe things will start to smooth out and the summer will not be bad at all...

Two pharmaceutical companies have just this week said they are ready to provide vaccines against this damn virus so there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel.... I hope us old folks get moved up towards the front of the line behind all the glorious first-responders and medical staff... (May God bless and protect them all)

Iíd love to hit the road early Spring and report to my new summer job (donít know where yet) and I pray thatís what weíll all get to do..

I pray for all of us that have selected this lifestyle and ask God to protect us and all our loved ones and I ask you to do the same for me and mine....
ernest917 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 08:01 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,483
I wish I paid better attention on your other thread about your travels then I might have known you were at Crazy Horse, we were there twice during our stay in South Dakota, it would have been great to meet you. We did go inside the building and even ate at the sit down restaurant which was spaced out very well. We even watched the movie and saw they did a great job cleaning after each show.
I will agree that travel seemed easy this year except for some campgrounds being crowded, it did take a little extra work finding a spot in SD for the length we wanted but everywhere else we went seemed pretty good.
__________________
2017 River Stone Legacy 38mb
2001 Kenworth T2000
2008 Smart on deck
dblr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 09:21 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 240
There won't be a national lockdown, some localized shutdowns will happen.
latner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 12:40 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
Posts: 9,792
It's my belief that once the vaccine(s) are deployed, even if only to small segments of the community initially, it will create "firebreaks" in the spread and slow it down.

When a vaccine is showing early results of being 90-95% effective that's pretty impressive. The Flu vaccine has been more like 50% effective by many reports.

If early reports are correct the Covid-19 vaccine(s) may be as effective as the Polio vaccine which is supposed to be 99-100% effective after three doses.

[sarcasm on] Maybe we can sell the vaccine to China to make up for some of the economic losses incurred [/sarcasm off]
__________________
"A wise man can change his mind. A fool never will."

"You only grow old when you run out of new things to do"

2018 Flagstaff Micro Lite 25BDS
2004 Nissan Titan
TitanMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 01:24 PM   #5
PhD, Common Sense
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fairborn, OH
Posts: 1,384
There are TWO questions that need to be answered before we should accept a vaccine.

Is it efficacious? At 90-95%, the answer is, ďVery!Ē However, with all the numerical gamesmanship going on, Iíd require lots of independent verification of these rates.

Is it safe? That CANíT be known until large numbers of people have taken the vaccine and large amounts of time have passed. I expect to see a lot of ads for the various vaccinesófollowed, in a year or two, by the lawyer ads: ďWere you, or someone you know, killed or injured by the Xxxx vaccine?Ē

Nope. Not taking any vaccine. Iíve had COVID and have the antibodies.

The only time in my life I ever got the flu was after taking the vaccine. I havenít taken a flu vaccine in 25 years and never had the flu in that entire time.

I advise everyone to do their own detriment/benefit analysis with any vaccine and then make their own decision.
eye95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 01:45 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
There are TWO questions that need to be answered before we should accept a vaccine.

Is it efficacious? At 90-95%, the answer is, ďVery!Ē However, with all the numerical gamesmanship going on, Iíd require lots of independent verification of these rates.

Is it safe? That CANíT be known until large numbers of people have taken the vaccine and large amounts of time have passed. I expect to see a lot of ads for the various vaccinesófollowed, in a year or two, by the lawyer ads: ďWere you, or someone you know, killed or injured by the Xxxx vaccine?Ē

Nope. Not taking any vaccine. Iíve had COVID and have the antibodies.

The only time in my life I ever got the flu was after taking the vaccine. I havenít taken a flu vaccine in 25 years and never had the flu in that entire time.

I advise everyone to do their own detriment/benefit analysis with any vaccine and then make their own decision.
X2. I have never had a flu shot and won't take a covid one either.
latner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 01:59 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
NMWildcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 6,406
Quote:
Originally Posted by latner View Post
X2. I have never had a flu shot and won't take a covid one either.
That's the spirit...... Reminds me of the saying concerning a nose and face..... Everyone can make their own choice, but sometimes your choices affect others.
__________________
Scott and Liz - Southern NM
2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
2007 Chevy 2500HD 4dr short bed Duramax w/allison
Reese Fifth Airborne air ride king pin coupler with Sidewinder
NMWildcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 04:10 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
edgewant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 587
Polio, small pox, measles pretty much eradicated through the use of vaccines. Hmmm? Go figure!!
__________________
edgewant

2013 Berkshire 390RB-60
toad - 2002 Jeep Wrangler Sport
edgewant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 04:17 PM   #9
Pickin', Campin', Mason
 
5picker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 12,978
Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat View Post
That's the spirit...... Reminds me of the saying concerning a nose and face..... Everyone can make their own choice, but sometimes your choices affect others.
Quote:
Originally Posted by edgewant View Post
Polio, small pox, measles pretty much eradicated through the use of vaccines. Hmmm? Go figure!!
X2

There's no doubt everyone has to make the choice right for them but simply being bullheaded isn't making an educated choice. Science and history has proven vaccines help.

Do people live/survive that don't get vaccinated?... sure but thousands more do because they got vaccinated.
__________________
_________________________________________
2016 Flagstaff 8529IKBS Diamond Package 5th Wheel-Goodyear Endurance Tires
2017 Ford F-Series SCREW 4x4 - Factory Puck B&W Companion
TST Tire Monitor w/Repeater - Sinemate 3500w Gen.

Days Camped: '17=30 '18=51 '19=58 '20=98
5picker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 07:18 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
Posts: 9,792
I'm sure science will prevail when vaccines are released, not BS.

A couple of these vaccines have been undergoing human trials, limited of course, but the research I'm sure is more scientifically sound than what goes into most "supplements" sold on TV. People seem to gobble them by the bucketfull but say no way to vaccines. Strange.
__________________
"A wise man can change his mind. A fool never will."

"You only grow old when you run out of new things to do"

2018 Flagstaff Micro Lite 25BDS
2004 Nissan Titan
TitanMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 07:57 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 3,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by ernest917 View Post
Summer 2021, Iím afraid is going to be totally different.... Hopefully Iím 100% wrong but I worry that I wonít be...
I expect our country to go into a big-time lockdown which will affect EVERYTHING!!! Travel will most likely suffer tremendously as well as everything else in our country...
Find a CG and hunker down because itís not going to be pretty...
I don't know about the summer, but they've already cancelled Mardi Gras in New Orleans for Spring 2021.
Getting a full time site for full timers in 2021 is probably a good idea. Nice to have a 'home base' in case all the parks shut down. As hospitals fill up and health care workers get sick, this is not going to be pleasant. Having a place to isolate is a good idea.
__________________
2015 Dynamax REV 24TB class C
Reverse_snowbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 09:45 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
ernest917's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: On Another Adventure
Posts: 2,351
EXCUSE ME!!!!

This wasnít intended as a forum on the vaccine... Start your own for that discussion....

This was intended to be a discussion on 2021 travel issues, places to stay if things go downhill and the such...

Iíd like to have input in that direction please.....
ernest917 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 10:02 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Space Coast of Florida
Posts: 2,859
Quote:
Originally Posted by ernest917 View Post
We all thought travel this past Summer was going to be difficult and surprisingly it was a lot easier than we thought ....

I worked as a tour guide at The Crazy Horse Memorial in Custer, SD and we were blown away by the size of visitor crowds daily... Packed out!!!

Summer 2021, Iím afraid is going to be totally different.... Hopefully Iím 100% wrong but I worry that I wonít be...

I expect our country to go into a big-time lockdown which will affect EVERYTHING!!! Travel will most likely suffer tremendously as well as everything else in our country...

All of us full-timers really need to be in place, a place that wonít close and make us leave like COE, BLM and NFCG all did this year....

Find a CG and hunker down because itís not going to be pretty... We move into our CG December 1st and plan to stay there as long as it takes...

Get your TP, water and such because itíll all be go quickly - again!!!!

Donít get me wrong - I hope Iím totally wrong but politics aside, everything Iím seeing and reading is definitely pointing in this direction...

On the bright side maybe things will start to smooth out and the summer will not be bad at all...

Two pharmaceutical companies have just this week said they are ready to provide vaccines against this damn virus so there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel.... I hope us old folks get moved up towards the front of the line behind all the glorious first-responders and medical staff... (May God bless and protect them all)

Iíd love to hit the road early Spring and report to my new summer job (donít know where yet) and I pray thatís what weíll all get to do..

I pray for all of us that have selected this lifestyle and ask God to protect us and all our loved ones and I ask you to do the same for me and mine....
Quote:
Originally Posted by ernest917 View Post
EXCUSE ME!!!!

This wasnít intended as a forum on the vaccine... Start your own for that discussion....

This was intended to be a discussion on 2021 travel issues, places to stay if things go downhill and the such...

Iíd like to have input in that direction please.....
LOL..You brought the vaccine up in your OP... but now we know that the vaccine topic is off limits.

I think if you 70 or older you need to self quarantine. We are. We just discussed how we got C-19 fatigue and became a little lax and need to be more aware of social distancing going forward.
The rest of society needs to soldier on but I agree they should use C-19 guidelines and get a vaccine when available.

Just me, but at 70 I would not have been a tour guide anywhere this year.
__________________
2016 Siverback 33IK, Towed 40K+ miles
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat 6.7L V8 Diesel 4WD Crew Cab
Andersen Ultimate Hitch
RadMini Stepthru eBikes

"If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there."
dalford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 10:06 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
AudiDudi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 687
Quote:
Originally Posted by ernest917 View Post
EXCUSE ME!!!!

This wasn’t intended as a forum on the vaccine... Start your own for that discussion....

This was intended to be a discussion on 2021 travel issues, places to stay if things go downhill and the such...

I’d like to have input in that direction please.....
What area of the Country are you looking for and when do you want to be in your "permanent" location? AZ would be great for the winter, there should be openings as the northern border is still closed. But personally, I would not want to be south of Flagstaff after May.

I would think you need two places where you can get some decent weather in the winter and then gain some latitude and altitude for the summer. I am having a tough time thinking of a place that I would want to be year round.

We do Casa Grande, AZ starting late Sept. and then head home to Montana the end of April. The SD guv seems to like personal freedom and responsibility - that could be a good summer choice also.

I personally don't believe we will have a massive nationwide lockdown. Some blue States may try. The people won't stand for another "stay home for two weeks to flatten the curve" while killing the economy. The gov't can only do so much and they have used their ammo already.
__________________

Mike and JoAnne
Montana Summer / Arizona Winter
2016 Prism 24G /2002 HitchHiker 38LKTG
ACME EZTowing a 2015 Chevy Sonic RS Hatchback
AudiDudi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 10:24 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 490
Amazon is already selling out of toilet paper.
NavyLCDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 10:42 PM   #16
Salty Senior
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Pompano Beach
Posts: 21
Covid

Quote:
Originally Posted by latner View Post
X2. I have never had a flu shot and won't take a covid one either.
Thanks...If your tribes decline, maybe a dose will be left over for us octogenarians.
Captain Gene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2020, 10:54 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 490
If the lock-down continues into next year, after the vaccine is available, hopefully those that take the vaccine will be exempt from the lock downs.
NavyLCDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2020, 08:40 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Gene View Post
Thanks...If your tribes decline, maybe a dose will be left over for us octogenarians.
Yep, at my age, if I get it I have over a 99% chance of recovery. We had 1 positive where I work, he spent 2 weeks at home and the rest of us tested negative. Same with where my wife works, 1 sick, everyone else negative.
latner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2020, 08:47 AM   #19
All Around Hoser
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Fort Collins Colorado
Posts: 17
With the number of politicians in this country, it may be a long long line before I get my dose of the vaccine. That notwithstanding, I plan on doing some winter camping in the the colorado rockies - Don't think I'll see big crowds.

__________________
--El Hefe

Baja Fog Experience Tour
F-150 Lariat SuperCrew w/3.5L Twin Turbo EcoBoost
Rockwood Mini Lite 2511S
BajaFog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2020, 10:45 AM   #20
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_snowbird View Post
...they've already cancelled Mardi Gras in New Orleans for Spring 2021....
Well, just all the parades as of now. Of course, they're a huge part of Mardi Gras, so...
PodGeek is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Forest River, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 AM.