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Old 04-03-2020, 07:19 PM   #1
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It's getting worse

1320 deaths reported so far today here in the US. 640 in New York alone.

So far over twice the number of people killed in the 9-11 attacks have died here from Covid-19


Can't think of a better reason to avoid unnecessary travel.
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Old 04-03-2020, 07:59 PM   #2
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What I don’t understand is that there are still US states that are not under stay-at-home orders. Ours has been going on 2 weeks as of tomorrow.

Are some states now still operating in a “business as usual” atmosphere?

I noted that, as I predicted, the Johns Hopkins data on a confirmed cases in the US approximately tripled in the one week period from Thursday 3/26 to Thursday 4/2. I expect the US count to be around 1 milllion by mid April. We can also reasonably assume that there are many, many more infections now than just those that have been confirmed.

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Old 04-03-2020, 08:14 PM   #3
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No, we're not under stay-at-home orders. Some localities have overstepped their legal authority and tried to make some towns have very strict curfews. But the governor here has not issued such an order. We are in NO way "business as usual" however. But this is still America.

We have twelve deaths. TWELVE. Out of 3 million people. We have six hundred and some odd positives. That's it. NINE THOUSAND negative tests. The curve here is flat as all get out. No rise. No reason to start today to adopt those kind of measures.


Still most small businesses are shut, and franchises of major companies have locked doors. It's not good. No one here wants it to get worse, and most folks (me for sure) have stayed in doors for weeks. We go nowhere. But no 'orders' yet either.


Certain areas are hit much harder, just like certain countries are. Some are escaping it, some are not. Makes no sense. But if this country has to abandon all commerce for six months, there'll be no county, no doctors, no health care system, and maybe no government, to save us. Somehow a balance has to occur.

This will probably get banned. Oh well.
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and after the virus is gone 4 more months . there will be nothing to go back to it will take ten yrs to climb out of the economic hole this virus is digging . forget rv'ing no one will be able to afford it . food shortages , people going broke long before this thing is over . used rv sales will sky rocket , looting and thefts will go through the roof . and this is just the first round . housing market collapse , stock collapse which is already draining peoples 401 , etc it may get so bad there will be people wishing the virus killed them
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Old 04-03-2020, 08:38 PM   #6
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and after the virus is gone 4 more months . there will be nothing to go back to it will take ten yrs to climb out of the economic hole this virus is digging . forget rv'ing no one will be able to afford it . food shortages , people going broke long before this thing is over . used rv sales will sky rocket , looting and thefts will go through the roof . and this is just the first round . housing market collapse , stock collapse which is already draining peoples 401 , etc it may get so bad there will be people wishing the virus killed them
Wow. Watching a little too much sensationalized news and believing a whole lot of it will bring on this kind of Armageddon type thinking.

If everyone will shelter in place as much as they can, protect themselves when they go out by washing and sanitizing hands, covering coughs and sneezes and treating everything you touch like raw chicken as a friend of mine likes to say, we will minimize the spread of this as fast as possible.

Once this is over, there is going to be a lot of pent up demand for services. Restaurants will have lines, tickets to movies, shows, sporting events will be in high demand.

Why you think the housing market will crash I have no idea. People still have to have somewhere to live and the market was a sellers market with people over bidding on asking prices when this started so the demand is there. As far as the stock market, yes it's taking a beating right now but no one has lost ANY money that hasn't sold their stock and history shows that after a major crisis like this, there is a Boom that generally regains most if not all that was lost in 12-18 months.

I feel bad for those that were getting ready to make a huge purchase with 401 funds as this started unfolding but it doesn't mean those dreams are gone, just that you're going to have to be patient until the market recovers before you buy that dream home, RV or whatever the dream was. Used RV's might bring a pretty penny if people are looking to have a bug out plan in case this ever happens again or comes back next Spring in a new form.

So who's right? Who the heck know for sure. Might be you. Might be me. Likely somewhere in the middle but panicking at this point and selling all your 401k shares does only one thing. It's called "Locking in your losses".
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OK members, the site team is starting with the posting suspensions. We have for several days pleaded and then stepped up to warnings to stop some of this fear mongering as it was against the guidelines that we have. These forums are not the place for this. Certain members just keep wanting to push the envelope. As per the read me file at the top of the COVID-19 subtopic, emboldened in red below:



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The less talked about part of the Covid-19 epidemic

As the number of cases grow the news reports cover the issue with hospitals, travel restrictions, shortages in grocery stores, etc.

What is little reported is how the Mortuary business is totally overwhelmed in the hot spots.

As the death toll rises in New York for example, Funeral Homes are restricted to only allowing 10 people per funeral and only three per day. With the daily Covid 19 death toll running over 500 per day in the last few days in New York, needless to say there is a backlog.

Here's an article that shows the situation:

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/05/82697...covid-19-cases

This can be an especially difficult problem for some as their faith requires that the departed not be unburied overhight.

I think that those who provide dignity to the departed deserve some recognition too.
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Old 04-05-2020, 12:10 PM   #9
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It definitely needs to be recognized.

In addition to the emotional toll the workers face, they are also exposed to the virus and who knows if they have protective gear.

The sadness for survivors who are not allowed to observe the religious rituals involved in burying their loved ones is heartbreaking.
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Funeral home work is risky business right now...You are coming in contact with people who lost a loved one, meaning those living family members are very potential carriers.

A friend of mine at work is of a religion that does not allow cremation and there is a specific list of things that must be done to pass the deceased into the next life. He is in fear right now because it is possible that he won't be able to perform the required steps. Enough of an issue with his family that they will probably just stay at home and hope for the best.

Tough times for many.
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