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Old 04-11-2013, 08:39 AM   #1
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First trip out in the cold

We have our 365 out in the cold for the first time, not impressed.... The slideouts r very drafty, the kitchen and back bunk room floors are freezing cold, after 2 nights of the furnace running it usef 3/4 of a 100lb lp bottle, also better leave the back bathroom water running or it will freeze up,and when doing that you better leave the black tank open cause thats where the sink drains to.....
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:21 AM   #2
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We use space heaters. It helps a lot. Saves on propane. We blow the circuit breaker sometimes though. Have to juggle appliances. For example, have to turn the heater off in the bedroom to make toast in the kitchen.
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You used 3/4 of a 100lb lp bottle in 2 nights?? That's alot of lp, curious what you had the thermostat set at.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:43 AM   #4
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Wowsers that doesn't sound to good. Do you have the upgraded insulation in the floor and roof? Your furnace must have ran almost non stop to burn that much fuel. Have you checked any of your ducting to make sure there is no breaks or leaks in it? I would get an inspection scope and look down some of the vents just to make sure.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:47 AM   #5
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I notice we use quite a bot of propane in our 365 as well, but not that much. I know I go through both my 30lb bottles about twice a year. The furnace sure does use quite a bit, but that's through both the spring and fall, not just in two nights.

I've been thinking about buying one of those infrared quartz space heaters. They have an economy mode so they aren't so taxing on amps, and they seem to warm up spaces in a way that helps build the heat. This will be our 2nd spring in our unit and I'm hoping to spend less money on propane and utilize the electric I'm paying for within the parks.
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Yep takes me almost all year to use 60 gallons in the midwest. And we camp late in to fall.
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We have our 365 out in the cold for the first time, not impressed.... The slideouts r very drafty, the kitchen and back bunk room floors are freezing cold, after 2 nights of the furnace running it usef 3/4 of a 100lb lp bottle, also better leave the back bathroom water running or it will freeze up,and when doing that you better leave the black tank open cause thats where the sink drains to.....
What setting did you have the thermostat set on? Not the temp setting, but did the A/C fan come on as well? If so, that is why you used so much. Should be the AUX setting then only the heat comes on.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:29 PM   #8
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Had the therm set at 69 and only the furnace came on, and we just have standard insulation in the floor but just talked to a rv place on putting as much insluation in the belly as possible, now we run the fireplace and a space heater in front and one in back, we have both 50 amp and 30 amp service on ours so we have have more power to play with
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I just picked my unit up and I stopped last night in Spear fish SD. Now granted it is only 18 outside but the furnace Imo is to small. When I was shopping I noticed some units came with 50k btu furnaces. I thought maybe it was because this had the upgraded insulation it wouldn't need it, boy was I wrong. I can't believe this thing only has 1 register in each room. The furnace ran for 8 hours straight. The front bedroom did get to 60, but the kitchen only hit 50.

I actually cheated and turned all 3 stove burners on for 1 hour otherwise it would have never gotten as warm as it did.

This is definitely not a 4 season camper. I really like the camper and we only camp in the summer so it should be fine.
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We had a third a/c unit put in the back bunk room cause in the heat off the summer it was hot back there too!!!!
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So I got my unit home and I have been running a test today. It's 30 outside and the furnace has been running non stop for 3 hours. It did get up to 59 in the main room but now that the sun is setting it is slowly dropping. I have a temperature logger and will leave the heat on until 10pm to see what it will do. At this point I think I will be adding a buddy heater to the back bedroom for the kids and the heat should trickle up to the bedroom.

Has anyone else used their camper in sub 40 degree weather?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:25 PM   #12
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I guess I may have missed it, but if possible, take a good thermometer out and test the air temp coming out of the vents. Then, if possible, take a reading right at the furnace output(might have to poke a small hole in the tube and tape up after words) . Also, as I thinks others noted, make sure there are no kinks or sharp bends in the supply hose and check for leaks where you can. I have pulled the access cover off in the basement of our Sabre and there is plenty of room to do some inspecting. Good luck. Doesn't seem right if you ask me. My Sabre heats up rather quickly. It is a couple feet shorter than yours I think, but our first night near the dealer was 18d out, 30d when we first got to our campsite, and it warmed up to 68 in less than an hour. We do run one edenpure space heater.
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When heating our trailer in cold temp -3c or 26f we will use about 30lb of LP in 5 to 6 days. If you used that much LP in 2 nights there is a problem with your unit. If you find the floor cold try purchasing some inexpensive mats to put down on the floor. Hang blankets over doors at night (this will help reduce drafts from door). If you are planning on a lot of cold weather camping you might want to install plastic over the windows. We also found that when winter camping if we ran a dehumidifier it help keep the trailer warmer.
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I'm not sure what to do. I used my inferred temp gun and the registers were between 108-128. I know the 9' ceilings don't help but I would think it could keep temp. I just went and plugged it in to see if the increase in fan speed helps. One thing I did notice is I heard the burner ignite which means it's getting to hot. So it can be either the fan isn't blowing hard enough (i do have 2 golf cart batteries) Or I noticed it only has 4 tubes coming out and 1 is not being used. I wonder if adding another register would help?
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:44 PM   #15
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I have the same unit and have camped 5 nights this spring most well below freezing and did not go threw one bottle. We use a small heater in the master bedroom because there is very little air flow from vent. Other then that we are comfortable. For your out side kitchen when you de-winterize close the two valves under the sink in the second bathroom. This will leave the anti freeze in the lines going to the out side kitchen and you will be able to use the rest of the coach.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:53 PM   #16
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So I got my unit home and I have been running a test today. It's 30 outside and the furnace has been running non stop for 3 hours. It did get up to 59 in the main room but now that the sun is setting it is slowly dropping. I have a temperature logger and will leave the heat on until 10pm to see what it will do. At this point I think I will be adding a buddy heater to the back bedroom for the kids and the heat should trickle up to the bedroom.

Has anyone else used their camper in sub 40 degree weather?
That does seem odd. Are you getting good airflow from the vents. Ours was clogged once in the furnace, but it was an easy fix. Rooms should warm up better than 59 degrees with constant running. Floors can stay nippy unless you have Polar Pack insulation for winter. As I mentioned, we use space heaters...and warm slippers for the nippy floors. I agree with others who think something could be wrong.
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That does seem odd. Are you getting good airflow from the vents. Ours was clogged once in the furnace, but it was an easy fix. Rooms should warm up better than 59 degrees with constant running. Floors can stay nippy unless you have Polar Pack insulation for winter. As I mentioned, we use space heaters...and warm slippers for the nippy floors. I agree with others who think something could be wrong.
Good is relative if I put my hand 4' above the floor I can barely feel the air in the bunk rom. I do have the upgraded insulation. I got a mr heater big buddy and it helped a bunch. I don't plan on camping in it when it's cold but I need to be ready in case it happens to get below freezing.

Do you know how much air is discharged to the tanks in the belly?
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I don't even know what that means. LOL
Check inside the furnace for a clog. Just take off the front cover and look.
When we did that, we saw insulation in the compartment that was obstructing air flow. Seems in days past, a mouse made a nest of insulation.
Now, I'm a freak about mouse prevention. I'm not much help. Am not very technical. I'm the DW, not the DH. I try.
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That's interesting, longer Georgetowns have two heaters for a total of 55,000 BTU capacity. I think however somewhere under the floor a distribution hose is is loose or adrift. Even 35,000 BTU's is enough energy to heat a small home. Your heat is escaping somehow. If the heater flow was too low the "sail switch" would take it off line for lack of safe cooling air across the heat exchanger. Maybe your thermo gun can help by finding local areas of warm floor or take readings underneath? Sounds big, should be easier to find.
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