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07-24-2012, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Washington DC
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king pin stabilizer
Just got it....seems to be worth the 100 bux so far....alot less shaking of the rig when the kids come running through
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2012 Ford F-350 6.7L CC SRW w/FX4
2013 Forest River Sierra 365SAQ
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07-25-2012, 09:03 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Auburn, GA
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A lot of people have abandoned the tripod these days and starting using stabilizers that stay on the camper. The ones I am talking about are SteadyFast Stabilzers, JT StrongArm stabilizers and the stabilizers from WinfieldRvProducts.com. The first two stop front to back and side to side shaking. The Winfield stabilizers offer a cross brace on the front jacks and when used in conjunction with roto-chocks or bal-chocks significantly reduce all motion in the camper. I just put a set of Winfield's on mine due to having the under mount storage bins(can't have full set of the other two due to that) and have really enjoyed the last 2 camping trips. I believe that YouTube has videos of the JTs and the SteadyFast for you to check out. Not knocking the tripod as I have never tried it, just relating my experience and my FILs. Happy camping!!!
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
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07-25-2012, 09:46 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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My dealer said when I bought my 5er tha t he hadn't sold a king pin tri pod in 6 years.
Everybody likes the stabilizers for the stabs.
Like mine in my profile
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07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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We still like and use our tri-pod, but
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Ed & Laureen
2005 F-250 4X4 SD 6.0 Powerstroke
2009 Cherokee Wolf Pack 285wp (the side door ramp toy hauler)
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07-25-2012, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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I did install a set of 30" jacks in front of the axle. With the tri-pod in front, 30" jacks in the the middle and 24" jacks in the rear, it's pretty stable.
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Ed & Laureen
2005 F-250 4X4 SD 6.0 Powerstroke
2009 Cherokee Wolf Pack 285wp (the side door ramp toy hauler)
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07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Lake Charles, La.
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on my last trailer, the king pin stabilizer helped. on this one (abt twice the weight), it didn't do much. i went with the steady fast and was surprised at how well it works. ur doing a little more bracing with them.
it sounds like the tripod is working for u. that is all that matters.
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07-25-2012, 11:32 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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The things that turned me off about the king pin stabilizer was.
1) its heavy.
2) its bulky.
3) I actually had to set it up.
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07-26-2012, 12:06 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Riverbank, Ca
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Check out these homemade stabilizers, I installed them in April and they work great, best part....they are very inexpensive to built!!
The ultimate 5er stabilizers! - iRV2 Forums
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2010 Wildcat 27RL 5th Wheel
2003 Ford F-250 6.0 Diesel
Nights Camped in 2012-42 and counting..
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07-26-2012, 12:09 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weekendcamper
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Same as mine
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07-26-2012, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
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I have a tripod presently, but have found that most of the places we camp I have to lower the front end too far to use it.
I'd love to get a set of JT's but some brilliant designer located the spare tire right between the front landing gear.
I plan on asking the reps at the FROG rally how best to relocate the spare.
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Perkasie, PA
2010 Sierra 356RL
2011 Silverado 2500 4WD, LT, Ext Cab, LB
Duramax 6.6L V8 Turbo Diesel
Allison 1000 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
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07-26-2012, 10:41 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3 Happy Campers
I have a tripod presently, but have found that most of the places we camp I have to lower the front end too far to use it.
I'd love to get a set of JT's but some brilliant designer located the spare tire right between the front landing gear.
I plan on asking the reps at the FROG rally how best to relocate the spare.
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I got the same problem and to add to that my fronts are hydro so there are no bolt holes and backs are electric with no holes either.
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2012 Ford F-350 6.7L CC SRW w/FX4
2013 Forest River Sierra 365SAQ
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07-26-2012, 12:06 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3 Happy Campers
I have a tripod presently, but have found that most of the places we camp I have to lower the front end too far to use it.
I'd love to get a set of JT's but some brilliant designer located the spare tire right between the front landing gear.
I plan on asking the reps at the FROG rally how best to relocate the spare.
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My tire is between landing gear.
Look at profile pics
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07-26-2012, 12:11 PM
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Mod free 5er
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beausdog
I got the same problem and to add to that my fronts are hydro so there are no bolt holes and backs are electric with no holes either.
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Bolt them to the pads on the bottom of the rams or whatever hits the ground.
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07-26-2012, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beausdog
I got the same problem and to add to that my fronts are hydro so there are no bolt holes and backs are electric with no holes either.
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And I thought I had it bad with the under mount storage units! I had totally forgotten you had the new hydraulics! I believe, in order to keep selling, all of the manufacturers of the stabilizers will have to make changes/additions to their products so they will fit the newer units.
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
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07-26-2012, 01:15 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by golfmedik
And I thought I had it bad with the under mount storage units! I had totally forgotten you had the new hydraulics! I believe, in order to keep selling, all of the manufacturers of the stabilizers will have to make changes/additions to their products so they will fit the newer units.
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One can hope
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2012 Ford F-350 6.7L CC SRW w/FX4
2013 Forest River Sierra 365SAQ
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07-26-2012, 05:47 PM
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Here's what mine looks like.
It's things like this that just make you want to slap the designer silly.
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Dave, Judy & Daisy May
Perkasie, PA
2010 Sierra 356RL
2011 Silverado 2500 4WD, LT, Ext Cab, LB
Duramax 6.6L V8 Turbo Diesel
Allison 1000 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
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07-26-2012, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3 Happy Campers
Here's what mine looks like.
It's things like this that just make you want to slap the designer silly.
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That is exactly what mine looked like when it arrived at the dealer. We had the generator installed which warranted moving the spare tire to the rear bumper. A $65 bracket and we were good to go. That is where my WindfieldRv stabilizers are now, on the front jacks. $199 and free shipping and they work great!
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
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07-26-2012, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by golfmedik
That is exactly what mine looked like when it arrived at the dealer. We had the generator installed which warranted moving the spare tire to the rear bumper. A $65 bracket and we were good to go. That is where my WindfieldRv stabilizers are now, on the front jacks. $199 and free shipping and they work great!
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I had contemplated the rear bumper bracket for the spare but keep going back to all the posts that say the bumpers not designed for that kind of weight.
Did you have any reinforcing done on the bumper?
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Dave, Judy & Daisy May
Perkasie, PA
2010 Sierra 356RL
2011 Silverado 2500 4WD, LT, Ext Cab, LB
Duramax 6.6L V8 Turbo Diesel
Allison 1000 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
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07-27-2012, 03:14 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Auburn, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3 Happy Campers
I had contemplated the rear bumper bracket for the spare but keep going back to all the posts that say the bumpers not designed for that kind of weight.
Did you have any reinforcing done on the bumper?
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No I didn't, but what I did do is to put the spare tire on the left side of the rear bumper near the weld for the support. That way it is not in the center(weakest) part of the bumper. I made sure not to crimp the bumper by tightening the u bolts too tight. I had this done on my 355 as well before I traded it in on the 365. I've asked everyone that has traveled with us if there was any movement of the tire at all, and all reported none. However, I check the bumper before every trip and at every CG. Will try to take pic and upload it. May be tomorrow though as I am leaving early for work today.
Most manufacturers will tell you that the bumper will hold up to 100 pounds that is not vibrating or shaking. Look around at others, there are thousands of them on bumpers. I know, it doesn't make it right, but we don't have much choice.
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
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07-28-2012, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member
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Sorry about being so late getting pics done..rough shift! Anyway, here are a couple of pics showing how far I moved my spare over to the side, closer to the support. It should be in a more stable location there as opposed to the middle of the bumper.
We don't have many options if/we put on stabilizers, under storage mounts or generator. So far, so good.
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
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