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06-30-2018, 04:00 PM
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Broken studs
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Has any one had this happen the studs broke off and I did not know it till someone was waving at and told me I lost a tire and I could not find it went to let Schwab and they installed new studs and clean my brakes and put my spare on and off I went and now I’m going to replace all the stats on all the axles I’ve never seen that happen ever and to top it off there was no damage to the trailer and this is a 2015 wildcat max I maybe have 10,000 miles on it
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06-30-2018, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wwalker2984
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Has any one had this happen the studs broke off and I did not know it till someone was waving at and told me I lost a tire and I could not find it went to let Schwab and they installed new studs and clean my brakes and put my spare on and off I went and now I’m going to replace all the stats on all the axles I’ve never seen that happen ever and to top it off there was no damage to the trailer and this is a 2015 wildcat max I maybe have 10,000 miles on it |
They can be damaged by over tightening, usually by impact guns. If they get loose lug nuts it can break them off due to the wobbling.
Since you lost them all I'd guess they were over tightened.
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06-30-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by doc73
They can be damaged by over tightening, usually by impact guns. If they get loose lug nuts it can break them off due to the wobbling.
Since you lost them all I'd guess they were over tightened.
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The bad thing is not five minutes before that happened I adjusted my mirrors to look at my tires and wheels on the passenger side and the driver side and everything looked good
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06-30-2018, 04:27 PM
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Did you happen to have just had bearings packed or brakes checked or tires balanced ? When all studs shear off it’s usually from over tightening with impact gun.
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06-30-2018, 05:59 PM
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When you get a chance change the other tire I had one tire shred and after I had it replaced used the trailer several more times before I noticed the other tire was deformed possibly from running on 1 tire for several miles.
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06-30-2018, 07:28 PM
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I've never had a stud break from over tightening unless it was ridiculously over tightened. My bet is the wheels were loose. Just my opinion.
Jeff
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06-30-2018, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Decon Blue
Did you happen to have just had bearings packed or brakes checked or tires balanced ? When all studs shear off it’s usually from over tightening with impact gun.
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No the wheel has never been off from when I brought it home in 2014
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06-30-2018, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by onetonford
When you get a chance change the other tire I had one tire shred and after I had it replaced used the trailer several more times before I noticed the other tire was deformed possibly from running on 1 tire for several miles.
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X2^^^^ What he said.
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06-30-2018, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HangDiver
X2^^^^ What he said.
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I am pulling all the tires and replacing all the studs and have a new rim to match the other ones because I am going to Zion from California in October and have other trips close by and will Carrie six extra studs With lug nuts
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07-01-2018, 01:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wwalker2984
No the wheel has never been off from when I brought it home in 2014
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07-01-2018, 04:46 AM
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We can all WAG on what caused the Stud Issue but the Only way to know for Sure is "Find the Wheel and do a CSI"! Never been Off since 2014=  Youroo!! 
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07-01-2018, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by youroo
We can all WAG on what caused the Stud Issue but the Only way to know for Sure is "Find the Wheel and do a CSI"! Never been Off since 2014= Youroo!! |
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07-01-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by youroo
We can all WAG on what caused the Stud Issue but the Only way to know for Sure is "Find the Wheel and do a CSI"! Never been Off since 2014= Youroo!! |
When the trailer was at less swab getting repaired up-and-down the highway I could not find
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07-01-2018, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmurph
I've never had a stud break from over tightening unless it was ridiculously over tightened. My bet is the wheels were loose. Just my opinion.
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There are impact wrenches in use today to tighten wheel lug nuts capable of producing up to 1,000 ft lbs of torque. In the hands of a beginner they are more than capable of breaking studs, or at least starting the cracks that lead to total failure.
Another issue. Steel wheels have "coined" centers. As the lug nut is tightened the wheel center acts like a belleville washer. It collapses as torque is increased adding tension. This is more forgiving than with cast aluminum wheels where there is no "spring". As the lug nut is torqued tension is created in the stud but since there is no "spring" in the wheel center you can go from proper torque and ideal tension to excessive tension and fracture lines.
Ford has this problem with their F 450 and larger chassis for a while. Wheels had flat centers and nut had a flat washer attached. Only took about 1/2 turn too much to go from max torque to fracturing the stud.
The tire stores I patronize use impact wrenches to remove lugs and to run them back on until they are just a little more than finger tight. The finish work is then done with a torque wrench. The proper way. Factory production often rushes things and there are no torque wrenches involved,
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