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Old 05-27-2013, 02:19 PM   #1
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Black water tank wont empty

We tried to use the dump station when we left today but only a little bit of liquid came out. In the bathroom toilet ai can still see LOTS OF STUFF! Suggestions on what to do to get it all dumped out? Gonna be messy I know!
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #2
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Using too much paper? Is it normal household paper or the RV kind that dissolves easier?Going to have to hook up to a dump station and run lots and lots of water through the toilet. A hose going down the flusher would be more effective than just flushing it lots.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #3
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You're going to have to run water in there, either put a hose down the toilet, or use flush water from your tanks.
"Shhhh-stuff gets clogged up when either/or too much toilet paper is used, or you don't use enough flush water after each use.
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Sound like a clog or a valve problem, neither very good. If you have access to a valtera external flusher. I would try that first to see if it is a clog that can be dislodged. Otherwise you have to access the valve and try to open it manually.

What unit do you hav eans does it have visible valves or are they hidden in the bowels (pun intended) of the sheathed under covering.

Need to collect whatever spillage in a tub or container and somehow get into a sewer.

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X2 on the clog. I would try one of these first...



If that doesn't work, you're in a load of sh!t, no pun intended...

Possibly driving it around and dumping near home MAY dislodge it...MAY!
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #6
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Garbonz... What is an external flusher? We have been using regular household tp but wont be anymore!!! I think the valve itself is eorking ok cause we did get some stuff to come out at the dump station. We will try the hose diwn the toilet. When I do this should the valve be opened or closed? I just dont want an overflow in the floor!! You know what I am saying? We are novice rvers and havent been doing this long at akl. It is all a learning process for sure! Thanks for everyones help!
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The big thing for TP is that it has to be septic safe. Here is a test from one of the people that I follow on YouTube.

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Old 05-27-2013, 02:54 PM   #8
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Your dump valve should be a little of each... open and closed... and I don't mean half way open either. You want as much water in as you can get in, and then dump it.
Repeat
Repeat
Repeat

If it still has solids, then you will definitely need a power flush
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Sound like a clog or a valve problem, neither very good. If you have access to a valtera external flusher. I would try that first to see if it is a clog that can be dislodged. Otherwise you have to access the valve and try to open it manually.

What unit do you hav eans does it have visible valves or are they hidden in the bowels (pun intended) of the sheathed under covering.

Need to collect whatever spillage in a tub or container and somehow get into a sewer.

Yeeeech.
There was a discussion about the Valtera flusher here yesterday - not all replies were good.

Do a search.
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There are also stories about a disc of tank wall being left in the tank after a hole saw is used at the factory.
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:02 PM   #11
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could someone have used disposable/baby wipes or feminine products? those will definitely cause problems.
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:13 PM   #12
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angel soft TP is RV safe, availble everywhere and 'soft'.
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Get one of these and push water back into your tank removing clog. Then drain and repeat a few times.

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Black Water Tank wont empty

Try puting a 10-20 lb bag of ice down toilet and drive around to agitate it, use alot of water and anenzime cleaner to loosen the muck....try again to empty and repeat a couple of times.
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I have also heard that you can add ice (I think someone used 2 5lb bags) to help loosen anything that is 'stuck' on the walls of the tank. Then drive around and dump once the ice melts. This will help clean out the tanks.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:30 PM   #16
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Bottom line is you put too much regular house paper down there. Next time use septic safe RV paper or what others have suggested. (it dissolves)
Also, make sure to use the RV toilet packet/chemicals before filling/using the tank next time. Full bowl of water with every paper flush.

You basically have what they call the brown pyramid. The paper built up under the trap and the liquid ran out.
You need to get the paper out. Your most sanitary option is to flush it out as described.
Plan B would be to get some trash picker uppers and pull it up out of the trap through the toilet if there is no liquid.
All else fails. Go to RV supply, buy a thing of tissue dissolver, some RID-X and a magic wand. Make sure the tank is full of liquid and add the chemicals. Let it sit for a few days. Find a campground or a place to dump at. Rinse and repeat.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:47 PM   #17
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Good news everyone.... The great flush out worked. We ran a hose into the toilet and down into the tank. After a few minutes.... A great big gush and were back in business!! We did our best to get as much stuff out and I filled the tank up and ran it and the water was running clear! Thanks for all the suggestions and tips. We will be much more dilligent in ensuring that we use the right paper, pretreat and after treat this tank cause this was a mess!! Thanks again and happy rv'ing to everyone!
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Glad you got it. Enjoy the summer!
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Just something to add. I don't think it was mentioned but you should allow your black tank to accumulate a good amount of water before dumping. It's ok to dump after a short time if you add a lot of water before doing so. The more the better, I believe, is the credence.
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Garbonz... What is an external flusher? We have been using regular household tp but wont be anymore!!! I think the valve itself is eorking ok cause we did get some stuff to come out at the dump station. We will try the hose diwn the toilet. When I do this should the valve be opened or closed? I just dont want an overflow in the floor!! You know what I am saying? We are novice rvers and havent been doing this long at akl. It is all a learning process for sure! Thanks for everyones help!
Message #5 has the link, that device may unclog it also. And I like the drive around and try again, may be a cheap fix.
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