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Old 01-22-2012, 09:36 PM   #1
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Where to add 2nd (auxiliary) battery on Wildwood 26BHXL

Hi all,

Just curious to see where you would recommend I add my 2nd 12V battery to my 2011 Forest River Wildwood 26BHXL.

I got the main 12V battery from the dealer, and I would like to either add a) another identical 12V battery, or b) 2 6V batteries.
The dealer said that neither would work since there is no room up front.

As you can see, there isn't much room. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:37 AM   #2
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I have a diffrent camper then you but when I added my 2nd battery I had to shift the battery box and cut the plastic handles off the box to make it work.

Am pretty sure the box is bolted down with self tapping screws so you will need to remove those to be able to relocate

Looks like you have parts of the hitch in the way - maybe you can get shorter length Grade 8 bolts to replace those long ones and give you some more room or get the manual for your hitch and see if you can move the brackets forward or back to accomodate some more room
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:10 AM   #3
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On my first trailer my dealer was able to mount a new rack thingy on top of the trailer tongue. It wasn't too expensive for them to do it. However looking at your pic again that won't work. Sorry but typing and thinking at the same time. I have also seen batteries stacked on top of each other. Your dealer might be able to fabricate something like that. I wish I had a pic to send you. I wish I had better advice.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:53 PM   #4
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Has anyone had any luck contacting Forest River about a question like this?

If so, do you have a good contact?

Thanks!
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:07 PM   #5
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One thing you may consider that I did on my previous travel trailer is going to a single battery with more capacity than what you have. I had the same problem you have and really couldn't find a suitable location for another battery. I went with a Trojan SCS 225. It has reserve capacity of 225 and an AH rating of 105. In comparison an average 24 series battery is a reserve capacity of around 140. This is a big increase. I was totally happy with the Trojan. I primarily boondock and this worked good for me.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:00 PM   #6
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WFCO Converter Battery Charging with LA and AGM Batteries

Thanks for the suggestion rkswyo.

I think after looking into this that I am going to add an AGM battery inside the TT; currently looking at the Optima Blue-Tops.

One question for any of you that may know:

Our trailer has the WFCO 8955 Converter/Charger. It a 3-stage charger with bulk, absorption, and float modes; 14.4V, 13.6V, and 13.2V respectively. We boondock quite a bit and want to have extra power since on the cold nights with the DW and kids and furnace on, I wake up to a battery that is around 50%.

We currently have the Interstate DP-24 (Group 24) battery, and I want to buy an Optima group 31 AGM battery to wire in parallel with the existing battery.

I know I've read how some people say you MUST have the exact same battery Wired in parallel, and others who said it wasn't a big deal.

Now to my question: can this stock converter I have charge by the lead acid battery I have now AND the AGM battery I am planning to add, if they are wired in parallel?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:39 PM   #7
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i wouldn't put any battery inside the trailer, not even in a compartment.
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i wouldn't put any battery inside the trailer, not even in a compartment.
I would agree if you are talking about the flooded lead-acid batteries, but from everything that I have read, the AGMs are safe to be put in a compartment inside.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:47 PM   #9
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What about a stack type arrangement?
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What about a stack type arrangement?
Unfortunately the battery is sandwiched between the propane tanks and the front of the trailer. There is no room to stack it.
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We currently have the Interstate DP-24 (Group 24) battery, and I want to buy an Optima group 31 AGM battery to wire in parallel with the existing battery.

I know I've read how some people say you MUST have the exact same battery Wired in parallel, and others who said it wasn't a big deal.

Now to my question: can this stock converter I have charge by the lead acid battery I have now AND the AGM battery I am planning to add, if they are wired in parallel?

Thanks in advance!
Here are some thoughts for you since you are considering two 12-volts in different types of batteries (AGM/Lead-acid) as well as two different capacities (group 31 and 24).

Charge rates: Usually, the charge rates are different with different batteries and your converter will not be able to charge both effectively if charged at the same time. One or the other will be short-changed I suspect and this can lesson its life span

Capacity - I also suspect that two different batteries with different capacities will result in one discharging quicker and eventually over discharging.

If you really need to use two different types (AGM and lead-acid) with two different capacities (group 31 vs 24), than I suggest that you install a battery switch/disconnect that will allow you to use one battery at a time and switch to the second battery as needed. Same thing when charging.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:30 AM   #12
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your charger will charge both batteries whether it is Lead acid or Gel.
Like stated above though I would either run both Lead acid batteries or both Gel Batteries.
the only way around this might be with a Battery switch that seperates each battery
I know Blue Seas makes one cause I have been looking at possibly buying it.
Blue Seas PN 6011200
m-Series Battery Switch, Dual Circuit Plusô - PN 6011200 - Blue Sea Systems

this way you can charge each battery independant from each other or use them independant as well
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Think outside the box just a little. The black box shown here is a Stanley tool box I bought from Wally World for about $35. Inside it are two DC-27 batteries.
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Here are some thoughts for you since you are considering two 12-volts in different types of batteries (AGM/Lead-acid) as well as two different capacities (group 31 and 24).

Charge rates: Usually, the charge rates are different with different batteries and your converter will not be able to charge both effectively if charged at the same time. One or the other will be short-changed I suspect and this can lesson its life span

Capacity - I also suspect that two different batteries with different capacities will result in one discharging quicker and eventually over discharging.

If you really need to use two different types (AGM and lead-acid) with two different capacities (group 31 vs 24), than I suggest that you install a battery switch/disconnect that will allow you to use one battery at a time and switch to the second battery as needed. Same thing when charging.
Triguy, thanks for the response.

At this point I'm not able to buy 2 AGMs, and I would add another flooded battery, but the hydrogen gas seems to be a big deal if I put it inside, and the venting issue isn't one I've been able to tackle.

What if I purchased one of the 1/2/both battery switches that you see on boats? Then I could charge/discharge them separately or together? Not sure why I don't see those on RVs and only on boats.

Alternatively, what about having a separate charger for the AGM?

Thanks again.
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Triguy, thanks for the response.

At this point I'm not able to buy 2 AGMs, and I would add another flooded battery, but the hydrogen gas seems to be a big deal if I put it inside, and the venting issue isn't one I've been able to tackle.

What if I purchased one of the 1/2/both battery switches that you see on boats? Then I could charge/discharge them separately or together? Not sure why I don't see those on RVs and only on boats.

Alternatively, what about having a separate charger for the AGM?

Thanks again.
I agree with your concerns about venting and it can be done with modifications. Some on here have done it successfully, though, so you might want to look into that if you are willing to mod it up.

The Blue Seas switch that sherdep pointed to will meet your needs of switching between batteries and charging one at a time as needed. You can get it on amazon for $30. These are actually used quite a bit by RVers, too. Ggenerally those who have two 12 volts vs 6-volt banks. I use the 6006 because my batteries are two 6-volt in series.

You can use the converter/charger or a separate charger for the AGM, of course. I like the option to use a good smart charger. Personally, the WFCO converter I have is just OK but doesn't have the voltage for my Trojans so I always use a smart charger when at home.
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I presently use the 6006 and I have two 12v gel batteries but I am thinking about upgrading to the Blue Seas PN 6007200 - they also make it in red just a diffrent part number. so if I wanted to only have one battery at a time I could or use both batteries.

The part # above was the wrong one - this is the corrected part # 6007200
This one allows you to one battery at a time or both batteries at once which is the way to go if you decide to do two diffrent batteries
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The part # above was the wrong one - this is the corrected part # 6007200
This one allows you to one battery at a time or both batteries at once which is the way to go if you decide to do two diffrent batteries
Thank you. I will pick this up from Amazon. Just to make sure I understand; which battery terminal gets wired to this switch? Is it the positive terminal, or the negative?

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Thank you. I will pick this up from Amazon. Just to make sure I understand; which battery terminal gets wired to this switch? Is it the positive terminal, or the negative?

Thanks!

lol thats another whole debate on this forum .

I would use the positive .
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lol thats another whole debate on this forum .

I would use the positive .
X2 on positive.

Let the debate begin ...
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