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Old 08-09-2022, 10:36 PM   #1
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Wildwood FSX 178BHSK (Midwest) thoughts?

I’m looking at one tomorrow and may buy it

This will be our 11th RV in the last 30 yrs… we’ve had two pop-ups, several travel trailers from 14-29’, one fifth wheel and two class C’s. I often buy used but this is a new 2022 model.

We will use this only occasionally for short trips when taking the grandkids camping.

Any thoughts from other owners of this one or similar?

We are firm on this floor plan and it has the features we want

- U dinette
- large bunks
- Murphy bed
- sink in the bathroom
- single axle/under 4K lbs UVW
- relatively short
- outside shower

I’ve been reading ‘not too flattering’ reviews of Forest River wildwood quality… I’m a bit concerned

We’ve had Winnebagos, StarCraft, KZ, Jayco, Montana, Coachmen, Keystone, Primetime (I know some are brands vs manufacturers)… and never had (knock on wood) a ‘horror story’ … just hoping to avoid one!
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Old 08-09-2022, 11:15 PM   #2
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You are certainly and experienced owner and you'll be able to judge the quality for yourself. There are no guarantees. Just make certain everything is working before you sign the final papers.

It's a great floor plan for what you need. It looks from the price as an entry level trailer which just means it's a small trailer at a reasonable price.

Let us know what you decide.

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Old 08-10-2022, 06:09 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forum !!

Wildwood is as good as any. Last time I talked with a RV repair tech the 2020 and 2021 COVID years were the worst for issues of any RVs. the 22's were much better.

Wildwools and Salems are usually nearly identical or were. I will assume that they are made on the same assumbly lines.

Look closely and make sure everything works as already mentioned.before signing papers.

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Old 08-10-2022, 08:05 PM   #4
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Thank you all for your responses. We had a good experience today at Brown’s RV in Guttenberg, IA

The unit met our expectations (we looked at many others while there) and we made the deal. The construction was not poor… just average, and we love the floor plan. The unit also has many features we were looking for.

It didn’t hurt that we got a fair price for our trade-in as well!

Will pick it up next week… but only after I have the transmission fluid cooler installed on our 2018 Honda Pilot.

This new Wildwood is 3800lb (dry) vs the 2800lb (dry) KZ 181BH unit we’ve been hauling and the extra protection is worth it.

We’ve also gotten along without a stabilizer hitch… but are getting that as well. Added an electric front jack as well.
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Not to rain on your parade but do not go by empty weight as they are that only as they leave the factory and never that little again. The gross weight will be closer to actual loaded and ready to camp.

What is your Pilot rated to tow? If the dry weight is 3800 the actual weight will be over 4500lbs more than likely.

I assume that your Pilot has electric brake controller, and a 7 pin trailer plug. The reason I say this is we have a 2015 Pilot.


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Not to rain on your parade but do not go by empty weight as they are that only as they leave the factory and never that little again. The gross weight will be closer to actual loaded and ready to camp.

What is your Pilot rated to tow? If the dry weight is 3800 the actual weight will be over 4500lbs more than likely.

I assume that your Pilot has electric brake controller, and a 7 pin trailer plug. The reason I say this is we have a 2015 Pilot.


Yep… understood and agree… always good to consider

2018 Pilot is rated to tow 5000 with 500 tongue weight (this wildwood rig is 430 tongue).

Yep… brake controller works great (bought a Tekonsha P3 a few years ago and are very happy with it) and 7 pin too…

So we are good to go

We try to pack light… but it will certainly be closer to 5k when we tow it!

Pilot also has an “econo” button we turn off when towing and an overdrive button we also turn off

So we are all set
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Yep… understood and agree… always good to consider



2018 Pilot is rated to tow 5000 with 500 tongue weight (this wildwood rig is 430 tongue).


You are using fictional dry weight numbers.
That 430 number isn't real, once you add the weights of batteries, factory options, dealer add-ons, water and trailer cargo.
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Still within range of the 500 max… even with other factors you mention

All good
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Still within range of the 500 max… even with other factors you mention



All good
I defer to your experience with RVs.
But a basic dual-purpose marine battery will weigh around 50lbs, which then makes the fictional dry tongue weight 480lbs. Once you add the trailer's cargo weight and water weight, how can it can it be under 500lbs? That's ignoring the additional weight of any factory options.
Those fictional dry weight numbers are based on a stripped-down version of the trailer.
At least take your combination to a CAT scale and get some real world numbers. You might be surprised at the tongue weight number. Especially with a single axle trailer.
Many new owners here, of these newer larger single axle trailers, have been shocked by real world loaded tongue weights. It has been well documented here, by the many posts and threads about it.
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Yep… understood and agree… always good to consider



2018 Pilot is rated to tow 5000 with 500 tongue weight (this wildwood rig is 430 tongue).



Yep… brake controller works great (bought a Tekonsha P3 a few years ago and are very happy with it) and 7pin too…



So we are good to go



We try to pack light… but it will certainly be closer to 5k when we tow it!



Pilot also has an “econo” button we turn off when towing and an overdrive button we also turn off



So we are all set


We have the same trailer and love it,, however the tongue weight is usually between 675-700.. I tow with a Ram 1500, so apples to oranges as far as the tow vehicle, but the TW on this single axel trailer is heavy, way heavier than published. BTW, I use a WeighSafe hitch so I know the weight every time.. happy camping!
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We have the same trailer and love it,, however the tongue weight is usually between 675-700.. I tow with a Ram 1500, so apples to oranges as far as the tow vehicle, but the TW on this single axel trailer is heavy, way heavier than published. BTW, I use a WeighSafe hitch so I know the weight every time.. happy camping!
Your experience is very common with these larger single axle trailers.
Previously single axle trailers were shorter, lighter and more basic. Now they are longer, packed to the gills with features and the axle is set farther back. All these contribute to heavier loaded tongue weights than advertised.
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Old 08-14-2022, 04:19 PM   #12
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Any idea why Forest River would stop putting a camp-side door to “what should be” the large pass through storage area in the front of the camper? They only put one door, on the other (driver side), with access to that front storage space (which goes across entire front of camper under the couch/Murphy bed area.

Is it simply a cheap-out, cost savings measure?

There are no infrastructure items in that space (appliances, hoses, cords, circuit boards, etc)

I don’t get it. First very large (across width of camper) storage area I’ve seen with an access door only on one side.

I guess we’ll need to find some very long storage containers I can slide in/out from one side.
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Just a guess maybe too many issues with the entrance door hitting the storage door when open ? or compliantss of the entrance door when open being in the way of storage door?

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Just a guess maybe too many issues with the entrance door hitting the storage door when open ? or compliantss of the entrance door when open being in the way of storage door?





No, the darn door hits the awning arm long before getting close to the mentioned storage door area.. I’ve even researched to install a storage (cargo) door and there is some structural framing that I wasn’t wanting to get into on the install so I bagged that idea. Still can make some use of it from a blank panel inside next to door though…. Haven’t dug into that yet either.
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Old 08-14-2022, 06:39 PM   #15
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No, the darn door hits the awning arm long before getting close to the mentioned storage door area.. I’ve even researched to install a storage (cargo) door and there is some structural framing that I wasn’t wanting to get into on the install so I bagged that idea. Still can make some use of it from a blank panel inside next to door though…. Haven’t dug into that yet either.
Thank you… I may look into that (accessing from the panel just inside to the right as you step in)

See just below fire extinguisher in the picture
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Old 08-14-2022, 07:18 PM   #16
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RVLock

Just bought this for the new rig…

I believe we'll enjoy it.
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List of projects for this new rig

Here’s the tentative list of projects… once we pick this up our new camper on Saturday

First… take it to the campground for a few days of ‘shakedown’ camping (we are going straight from RV dealer to campground)


Then…

- immediately fix any ‘hazards’ we encounter (sharp screws/staples, etc) that may protrude and be a problem for us or grandkids when they visit
- determine what kind of ladder / steps I want to acquire to use to access the top bunk. forest river does not include one (cost cutting?) with this model
- cut reflective window shades (we use large auto sun shades) to fit to augment the windows coverings when hot and to help with privacy at night
- install Keyless RVLock (It arrived from Utah this morning already)
- determine where we need/want dimmers for the LED light in the rig… order the dimmers we want
- organize storage areas inside and out
- determine if I want to cut into the panel (see area just inside rig to the right at bottom below fire extinguisher) to make a shoe storage compartment. I need to determine how to make it look really nice and match (per Dear Wife). Guess I’ll be crawling into the big storage compartment from the other side to see what the area looks like. I’m not much of a carpenter… so this could be an adventure.
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We have the same '21 unit. Things we have found...
> Added second battery with master shutoff switch, it keeps the fridge running all day on long travel days.
> Added inexpensive voltage meter just above control panel to monitor battery
> Had to repair cabinet that holds fridge. It started separating as the fridge pushed out on bumps and turns
> Added 12V fan under fridge to aide in circulation. The gaps around fridge are about half the 1 inch required for unit. Added grill underneath with switch for it
> Added backup lights for those late day arrivals
>Added PVC pipe under bed in storage area to hold sway bars when not in use
> Added a accessory reciever to front A frame to hold hitch assy off truck when not in use.

Had a blow out that tore up the wheel well. That's my current project.

Some pics that I could find...
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Thank you and some good ideas!
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Old 08-23-2022, 04:19 PM   #20
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What the heck? The entire awning (underside and top) is brown. Why would any RV maker use a heat-seeking dark brown color on a awning.

Just foolish (by the manufacturer to install that crap) and equally foolish of me not to notice before I bought it

10 RVs before this one… and none were pitch dark color

Must have been a been sale on cheap, dark vinyl and Forest River buyers bought a million yards of it
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