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04-20-2021, 03:55 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don B.
My mom used a torpedo level in their '63 Airstream Globe Trotter for 15 years. She would check the level and call out exactly what thickness block to pull up on. Then we'd crank at the hitch until she yelled 'whoa' and we were in bed within 10 minutes.
So as a sort of tribute to my mom, my wife is learning the same system. She was sooo proud when she called the block on our last trip and nailed it - first try. We drank to that!
We could use all kinds of technology to make it easier, but this is really fun for us. Mom would be so proud.
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That story is AWESOME!
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04-20-2021, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Virginia
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And then after you finally get the hang of getting the rig really level, you have to figure out how much to setup out of level to be level when you put slides out! And your main sitting is in one slide and that in turn lowers that side after a day by an inch. The things we learn along this great camping journey! Happy camping.
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2017 Ford F-250SD 6.7 Power Stroke
2018 Flagstaff 29KSWS
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04-20-2021, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Southern Illissouri
Posts: 922
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I "calibrated" all of our stick-on levels by using the stovetop as a reference surface.
Got a Levelmate Pro last year, it works wonderfully except the Bluetooth signal is weak (we have aluminum siding on our camper).
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04-22-2021, 06:16 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 55
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“Close enough” is sufficient.
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04-22-2021, 06:21 PM
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 23,269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbles
If you have internal doors open them up and see if they stay where you open them up to. If it feels level to you that should be good to go.
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Yes, this is the ultimate test.
Also note that the frame is flexible. Never try to get the trailer wheels off the ground; The rear stabilizers will fail long before that happens.
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
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04-22-2021, 06:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 3
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Originally Posted by cboss
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The issue is you need to be level to install and use this. Didn't answer the question.
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04-22-2021, 06:28 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 45
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Use a marble
I put a marble on the counter top and if it rolls off, I re-level.
Just kidding!
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04-22-2021, 06:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: NE Oklahoma
Posts: 160
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsdata
I like this brand of level... they are graduated to tell you how many inches you are out of level, giving you an idea how many boards to put under the wheels... I stick mine on with the provided tape, then outline them with caulk to hold them firmly on the front side of the trailer.
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X2 for these bubble levels.
I used a 4 foot level on the main floor to level my trailer forward and aft as well as side to side in the driveway. Then permanently screwed the levels to the frame on the front driver's side.
When I back into a site I can immediately determine how many 2x12s in need to pull up on and which side they are needed. Then raise or lower the tongue jack so it is slightly high so water will run off towards the back of the trailer.
The wife gets a little upset if the eggs or pancakes slide to one side of the griddle.
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04-22-2021, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Clovis CA.
Posts: 407
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddubu
Hey guys, how level do I need to get my 5er so everything works right, fridge and slides? And where is a good reference point to check level? I can't get to the frame because of insulation, I get different readings from floor and solid surface counter and the rear bumper doesn't look like it was attached with much attention to level. Running a 2016 8529RLBS 35'.
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I have two levels, one in front and one on the side next to it, at my controls. I set up with both of them level and then open a door half way, of it stays, all is good.
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04-22-2021, 08:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 165
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We store our camper in our pole building which has a level concrete floor. We just put the stick on levels on it after using a 4ft level on the floor. Tested using a ball on the floor. If it doesn't roll, it's level. The stick on levels get it as level as it needs to be. This new 5th wheel has auto leveling though we haven't been out in it yet. Memorial weekend is usually our first trip out for the year so will be using it then.
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04-22-2021, 08:13 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mixerman
We store our camper in our pole building which has a level concrete floor. We just put the stick on levels on it after using a 4ft level on the floor. Tested using a ball on the floor. If it doesn't roll, it's level. The stick on levels get it as level as it needs to be. This new 5th wheel has auto leveling though we haven't been out in it yet. Memorial weekend is usually our first trip out for the year so will be using it then.
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What model is your fifth wheel? I kinda regret not getting auto-leveling.
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2020 GMC 2500HD Diesel
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04-22-2021, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Waukee, IA
Posts: 566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
Yes, this is the ultimate test.
Also note that the frame is flexible. Never try to get the trailer wheels off the ground; The rear stabilizers will fail long before that happens.
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Exactly. Because they are stabilizers, not levelers.
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'17 Salem Cruise Lite 232RBXL
Mickey the Rescue Project Schnauzer
Days Camped: '17-39, '18-61, '19-64, '20-38
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04-22-2021, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Waukee, IA
Posts: 566
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Perfectly level is not necessary, but for comfort, it's nice to know you are close. With the camper's center floor leveled left/right and front/back with a torpedo level, I mounted the levels shown below. I use these to get close. I like it to lean forward/curbside about half a bubble. With that the A/C condensation doesn't drain by my door and the shower drain is the shower low point
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'19 Chevy Colorado Z71 4x4 Crew Cab
'17 Salem Cruise Lite 232RBXL
Mickey the Rescue Project Schnauzer
Days Camped: '17-39, '18-61, '19-64, '20-38
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04-22-2021, 08:58 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 81
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedubya
Exactly. Because they are stabilizers, not levelers.
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right, if they aint scissor jacks that look like they're from an OEM emergency kit from an F250 then don't use them for anything but "touching " the ground.
on the flip if you got the giant scissor jacks on all 4 corners, have at it; just realize that you CAN torque it too much and start to bend the corners of the trailer frame if you lift it and then leave it, frame is designed to support weight with upward force being at or near the axles, not the corners.
80% or better of all the bottom facing metal strength of the frame is near those axles.
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04-22-2021, 09:03 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
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I always level to my stove. If my fried eggs sit level in the pan life is good.
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04-22-2021, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,223
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I’m still not impressed with the LevelMate Pro. I park sitting on concrete pads in my carport, verify level with four foot carpenter level and calibrate the LevelMatePRO to zero. Come back the next day and the device says I’m one half to one inch low at the left front. Check the next day and it miraculously leveled itself at the left front but now the left rear is off by 1.5 inches. It seems to change almost every day. Funny thing is the readings from the carpenter level never change.
However, I use it when pulling into a campsite because I can watch the numbers change as I move forward, backward, whatever.
Now, here’s the most important subject....what’s the best way to get the Blackstone level left to right while having it about .5 degree low on the back side.
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04-22-2021, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 904
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As long as it feels good to you it will be OK for your slides and your refrigerator. I generally het mine as perfect as possible however. I hate when the eggs go to one side of the pan!
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04-22-2021, 09:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Northern Foothils CA
Posts: 1,420
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Someone earlier suggested a 2' level on the back bumper, use 1/4" blocks under the edge of the level to determine how many inches to raise the side of the trailer. Works great. My counter is level with the cook top and I have a spot on the front of my frame by the lift jack that is correspondingly level with these. I put a cheap stick-on level there. To me the most important leveling point is the top of the stove.
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04-22-2021, 10:26 PM
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#59
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVPP
I use a 3 foot level on top of the 'diamond plate' on the front of my RV and the top of the pass-thru on the side. Works like a charm.
Paul
This is not a rehearsal.
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Same plus1
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04-22-2021, 11:20 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 59
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The best place to put your torpedo level is the bottom of your refrig freezer. Then put it on the countertop an see what it says. (In case the freezer is full.) Today's refrigerators can accept a few degrees off. Safe Happy Travels
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