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01-29-2017, 06:03 PM
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Keys, keys and more keys!!!!
Wow, just bought a new camper and was locking all the outside compartments. Going though key ring to figure out what keys fit what locks. Also which way they go into lock.Think I will color code keys and locks so it's less confusing. Dealer had a master key that I think fit all the locks. Think I need one of those. lol
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01-29-2017, 06:11 PM
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Senior Member
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Should have 3...one for entry door, one for all compartments, and one for outside shower door if so equipped.
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01-29-2017, 06:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Kalamazoo
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I know the feeling my old 29hfs toy hauler had two doors each with different keys. the garage door different key and another key for the storage compartments. I guess the extra 3 cents to have matching locks cuts into the profit.
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01-29-2017, 10:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: KS
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I have 5 keys that came with mine. Got it the rv show and they power washed all the lube out of them. In combination with the cold they were very hard to even get the key in to lube it. PDI ws worthless. He could not open the storage for the water filter and lines. Each door had its own key and to make it worse one would unlock both doors but not lock them.
I would suggest replacing the locks or better having a locksmith rekey them. The dealers have masterkeys to the door locks but not the deadbolts. They do have all the keys though. I am not sure about the storage compartments. Was going to buy a few from amazon but they key all the locks with the same key! RVlocksandmore seems the best option i found so far but you have to buy the lock and then they will ship a key after verification that you bought that lock that matched it.
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01-30-2017, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikdor1
Wow, just bought a new camper and was locking all the outside compartments. Going though key ring to figure out what keys fit what locks. Also which way they go into lock.Think I will color code keys and locks so it's less confusing. Dealer had a master key that I think fit all the locks. Think I need one of those. lol
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I doubt a dealer had a one key fits all. But what I do is : I have a key chain that allows different keys or key rings to snap to it.
Then I bought different color rings to attach each key to. Making it easy just to snap off which ever key you need.
Russell
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01-30-2017, 08:17 AM
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I got tired of all the keys last year and guessing which key was which door in the dark, so I went through RV Locks and had to order a new lock for one of my entry doors (just matched the code on the other door) and I also ordered the cam locks to match that as well..so now both entry doors and the 751 locks are all the same key. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to do that with the outside shower (it's a different shape and size cam lock), so I still have carry around the 751 key, but I rarely have to use it! The other nice thing was, every lock I ordered came with a key, so now I have like 7 keys to get in. I now leave one in the TV, my wife and I each carry one, and we've got a set in the garage and still have back-ups.
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01-30-2017, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: KS
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How hard was it to replace the cams on the storage areas? I was planning on doing that. Doors look easy.
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01-30-2017, 08:37 AM
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Very Very easy. You use a phillips screwdriver to remove the lock tab inside, and then remove the nut that holds the cam lock to the door. Push the lock out, pull the door pull of and put it on the new lock, push it back through the hole, spin the nut over the cam lock and tighten and put the lock tab back on and done. Seriously about a 3 min. job.
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Nights Camped - (2014) - 16 in 6 trips (2015) - 20 in 6 trips
(2016) - 21 in 7 trips
(2017) - 12 in 3 and going seasonal for at least the rest of the year!
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01-30-2017, 08:57 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WFD
Should have 3...one for entry door, one for all compartments, and one for outside shower door if so equipped.
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I'm in this camp.
The bigger one with the purple plastic ring is for the door.
The single cut, smaller key is for the outside shower.
The double cut, smaller key is for all the slam latches.
I can easily tell at a glance.
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01-30-2017, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NE Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustB_Rad
I got tired of all the keys last year and guessing which key was which door in the dark, so I went through RV Locks and had to order a new lock for one of my entry doors (just matched the code on the other door) and I also ordered the cam locks to match that as well..so now both entry doors and the 751 locks are all the same key. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to do that with the outside shower (it's a different shape and size cam lock), so I still have carry around the 751 key, but I rarely have to use it! The other nice thing was, every lock I ordered came with a key, so now I have like 7 keys to get in. I now leave one in the TV, my wife and I each carry one, and we've got a set in the garage and still have back-ups.
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I removed the lock from our shower door and replaced it with a $5 cam lock from a utility trailer shop.
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01-30-2017, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired JSO
I removed the lock from our shower door and replaced it with a $5 cam lock from a utility trailer shop.
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I'm fine with the lock, I just couldn't get it keyed the same. Whether its a cam lock or the 751 doesn't matter to me....I'm not worried about somebody breaking into it and stealing my water....It just means I have to carry a 2nd key on my rings.
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(2016) - 21 in 7 trips
(2017) - 12 in 3 and going seasonal for at least the rest of the year!
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01-30-2017, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 5,190
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FWIW, RVLock has their v3 keyless locks on sale for $99.
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01-30-2017, 01:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: La Mirada, CA
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First thing you should do is replace any CH751 locks as this lock is common on every trailer. I suggest converting to the barrel type and getting all the same number so one key will fit everything except the door key.
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01-30-2017, 02:38 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Northen IL
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I have 4 keys for my trailer. Front door, back door, slam latches and a 751 for my outdoor kitchen. I also have a key for the padlock on my shed.
The locks keep the honest people out. If someone wants to get in bad enough, they probably could. Doesn't matter what lock/key combination is on there.
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01-30-2017, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Charlotte, NC
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After buying a used trailer with different locks on two doors, I was able to order new door locks and matching cam locks, so now one key opens everything. Installation of cam locks, as JustB Rad says, is very easy, but maybe I'm not as quick as he is. It took me 5 minutes. The door locks are a bit more tricky, but still well within my limited skillset. The door locks were about $20 each; the cam locks were about $6.50 each from Creative Products Group in Elkhart, IN.
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01-30-2017, 03:19 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WFD
Should have 3...one for entry door, one for all compartments, and one for outside shower door if so equipped.
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Funny, exactly what mine came with, but the keys that open the outside compartments, opens the outside shower. The reverse is not true, the shower key does not open the outside storage.
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01-30-2017, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Jonesboro AR--Home of Arkansas State University and the Red Wolves
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I ordered from RVLocks and More and got all new cam locks for my compartments....just be sure you measure the lock as the attached pic shows, pick a key number and they will key them all alike...btw, I have now ordered the $99 special from RVLock for a keyless entry door so I'm really down to having one key for all the storage compartments.
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01-30-2017, 04:01 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Waverly, Ohio
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Have three for my Sunseeker, deadbolt, door latch and one for all compartments. Thing is, all the RV locks I've seen just keep honest people honest. A friend of mine put a residential deadbolt on his. Looked good so I bought one too. Thieves broke the window to get in so I don't even lock my big deadbolt any more. Compartments...one good pop with a pry bar and they're open. I've often wondered how much it would cost to have someone put "real" doors and locks on the compartments, at least the main one.
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01-30-2017, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
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In reality, the only reason to lock our TT is to keep the 16lb Wiener dog inside! Houdini could probably get it open if she really tried
If a thief really wants in, the more obstruction you make, the more damage you'll end up with in the end. And some will say, "That's why you have insurance"....which is all fine and dandy, but it'll never be the same, no matter how good the repair man is. My solution is to not keep valuables in the RV to begin with....I know that's not always the case for full timers and such.
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