Truck

[ronheater70]

The Ecoboost motor actually pulls better then the 6.2 v8.. At least thats my experience, even though mines a 2013.. It just really has the oomph down low..
BUT, you are still dealing with a 1/2 ton truck and and 9,000 pounds is pushing it.
again, in my opinion..
the 5.4 is a dog.. (again in my opinion) Just about anything newer will be an improvement.
I would say the 3/4 ton is the safe bet to routinely pull over 9K . You certainly don't need the expense and extra power of the diesel for that weight.. you'll just be a little slower. No biggie.. I wouldnt even begin looking at a diesel IMO unless I was pulling over 11.5 K on a regular basis. My sons f350 with the 6.7 had been one expensive nightmare and he has only 44K on it..

[madmaxmutt]

Originally Posted by Zak1

While I don't disagree that the F250 would have stronger chassis, suspension and braking capability. The "oomph" in my mind comes from the drivetrain. A new F150 3.5 Ecoboost has 5 less horsepower but 40 more foot pounds of torque than the 6.2 V8. Teamed with the new 10 speed transmission, the Eco is a Beast. Do not even think about a baby (2.7L) boost for this trailer.

The cabs are identical now, so you are somewhat down to the issues previously listed, if it fits where you want to park it, and how much towing you will do vs daily driving in the truck.

I own a 2016 F150 4x4 supercrew with the 2.7 Ecoboost. It is every b it the beast the 3.5 EB is. I tow a 30WIKSS V-Lite (7750 lbs dry) with an EQ WDH (Just got a new Propride 3P but haven't installed it yet) and the truck has more than enough power, all brakes work well, trans temp has never exceeded 203 degrees.

Most folks on this forum no very little about the Ecoboost capabilities, especially the 2.7

I know enough. The OP is looking at a trailer that far exceeds even the highest 2.7 tow rating. Unless, your truck has 3.73s it is likely to be under rated as well. The age old questions. . . Can it pull it? yes Should it pull it? no

Even with a 3.5, the OP is going to have to find the right one. The salesman at the stealership will tell you every F150 can pull 12,200. That isn't even close to correct IF you go by the towing charts.

[davel1971]

Originally Posted by madmaxmutt

Even with a 3.5, the OP is going to have to find the right one. The salesman at the stealership will tell you every F150 can pull 12,200. That isn't even close to correct IF you go by the towing charts.

This is very true. My wife works at a very large Ford dealer. We have helped many friends buy trucks. Many trucks are loaded up with all the pretty options, but very few ever have the options that add to payload or towing capacity. It's up to the potential buyer to educate themselves on what they are buying. People buy 1/2 tons that cost nearly as much as a diesel dually, then find out they didn't get enough truck.

[lbrjet]

Not sure why this thread has been overtaken by 1/2 ton talk. With a 1300 lb plus wet tongue weight (1140 dry) that rules out every half ton on the market.

[davel1971]

Originally Posted by lbrjet

Not sure why this thread has been overtaken by 1/2 ton talk. With a 1300 lb plus wet tongue weight (1140 dry) that rules out every half ton on the market.

I'm betting at least 1700 pin weight when loaded. Add a 5th wheel hitch, that's 2000 lbs of payload. Passengers and other stuff, not happening with a 1/2 ton.

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by davel1971

I'm betting at least 1700 pin weight when loaded. Add a 5th wheel hitch, that's 2000 lbs of payload. Passengers and other stuff, not happening with a 1/2 ton.

Not that I'd ever give up my F350 diesel but I wonder the payload on an F150 3.5 EB with max tow and max payload..... I've seen 1/2 tons with some payload numbers you could hardly put more than a week of groceries in them although others are somewhat better for pulling a TT.

[davel1971]

Originally Posted by CaptnJohn

Not that I'd ever give up my F350 diesel but I wonder the payload on an F150 3.5 EB with max tow and max payload..... I've seen 1/2 tons with some payload numbers you could hardly put more than a week of groceries in them although others are somewhat better for pulling a TT.

yes, the payload numbers are all over the place for 1/2 tons. I'll stick with my 16 F350 dually diesel. Lots of room to grow and towing is a breeze.

[lbrjet]

Just a note that the OP has a travel trailer.

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by lbrjet

Just a note that the OP has a travel trailer.

and there are some 1/2 tons out there not fit to tow more than a pop-up.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

I would agree. If your personal budget and future aspirations allow this upgrade.

I had 2 F 150's, screaming Triton 5.5 L then the super powerful 3.5 Ecoboost. Great dry trucks. So So towing. 32 ft Bumper Pull pulled both around while towing 5th wheel overloaded the Ecoboost by 900 lbs.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by Majicdoor

I have. F250 now but it's a 2003 5.4 engine it pull the camper but it not enough of a truck especially going up hill. I looked at diesels but I've been reading all about the maintenance costs with them so I'm just not sure which way to go

Most of the "costs of desire maintenance" are BS and in modern time referred to as Fake News by people that don't have one.. A Ecoboost can hatch and cost as much to repair. I have had both.

It is a wash once fuel savings are factored in.

The ford maintenance contract I have is actually less money than the one I had for the ecoboost. Oil every 12,000KM. That is twice a year for me.

A modern 6.7 l is costs less than a 10 year old 6.0 or 6.4. Unless you are buying a 15 year old truck they do not factor into todays engines.

[510Rick]

still say bigger is better ..why take the chance it would be called a F250 Ecoboost if it was supposed to be a big dog hauling rig .

[Majicdoor]

I wished ford had a f250 with the Econo engine. I have a 350 transit van with the econo engine and it has lot of power but thats a work company truck.Thanks for the infor. One more thing any towing with the 6.2 f250 truck

[B and B]

Originally Posted by Majicdoor

I wished ford had a f250 with the Econo engine. I have a 350 transit van with the econo engine and it has lot of power but thats a work company truck.Thanks for the infor. One more thing any towing with the 6.2 f250 truck

Lookup Pinerock on here. They tow in IN and TN with a F 250 6.2 and a Puma Toy Hauler

[Gjersvik]

Originally Posted by Majicdoor

I have. 8320 flagstaff with 9700 lbs looking to buy new truck. I was looking at the f150 econo they say that it would tow 12200 lbs and the f250 with 6.2 gas don't know what is better. What do you think

We pull an 832KIBS with a 2015 F-150 with ecoboost and max tow package. The 832KIBS has a UVW of 8103 lbs and a hitch weight of 965 lbs and I believe we are at the upper end of what the truck can handle. It works well for our needs, but I'd be concerned at 9700 lbs.

Charlie

[Grisham91402]

isn't a 8320 a trailer that's 32' long? I have a 32' bumper pull and use a f250 diesel. No question I've got plenty of power and don't doubt the eco will do fine pulling it. Don't expect to get more than 7-8 mpg. My first concern is how well will its really handle one that long in windy conditions? Even on windy days it's tough for a much heavier f250. That would be my only concern well and of course the braking ability but you at least have trailer brakes for help there.

[Kimber45]

I usually make fun of the weight police, but I think they may have this one nailed. I hauled a 7k tt and a 8k 5th wheel with my 14 ram hemi rated at 10,500 pounds.

9,500 pounds is a ton of weight. Look at the pin weight of the trailer. I bet its over payload for the 1/2 ton truck. You want a camper that big you need a 3/4 ton.

Damn I cant believe I took the side of the weight police. Do I get a badge or patch now?

[Majicdoor]

I'm going to go with the diesel truck cause I would like to tow knowing I have a safe set up with a little room to spare.

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by Majicdoor

I'm going to go with the diesel truck cause I would like to tow knowing I have a safe set up with a little room to spare.

Kenworth, Peterbilt or Mack?

[dbledan]

Good call on the truck going with the f250. I have 2016 f150 ecoboost with max tow. My trailer is about 8000lbs loaded. It can pull it but payload is the problem. I didn't like the downshift to 3rd in branson and will be upgrading trucks before going to the mountains. I put Timbrens and a good wd hitch but I thought I had a bigger buffer. Wish I got the 250 to start with.