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04-24-2017, 02:23 PM
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Flat Tire - Looks Like A Nail
Just noticed the rear most tire on the door side is almost flat....looks like I picked up a nail. The TT (2109s) is sitting in my driveway. I don't have one of those ramp things specifically designed to change a tire on a random axle trailer. What are my other options? And if one of those options is to jack it up, where do I put the jack?
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04-24-2017, 02:29 PM
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You will either have to use a ramp (as you called it) Trailer Aid or use a jack.
It will depend a little on the type of suspension you have (torsion vs springs) as to where you can jack but jacking on the frame by the tire in question is always a good starting point.
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04-24-2017, 02:29 PM
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On the frame never on the axels
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04-24-2017, 02:38 PM
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Ive always placed my floor jack just inside the affected wheel/tire (As close to the wheel as possible)..never had a single issue on my previous travel trailer, and recently the same on my fifth wheel, as I removed all 4 wheels to have new tires mounted.
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04-24-2017, 11:08 PM
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If you have the orange/yellow levelers, you can build your own TrailerAid (e.g., ramp).
In the pic above, leave off the bottom right (or left) leveler and use it to go higher. I actually cut one of mine in half so I can make a "triangle" rather than a "pyramid." (I shamelessly stole this idea from another forum member!)
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04-25-2017, 06:46 AM
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Report back what you find as our new 2109S has a tire leaking as well...after 200 miles of towing it was down to 20 psi. I pumped it up and it's held while stationary...
Confusing...
Don
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04-25-2017, 06:52 AM
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Flat Tire - Looks Like A Nail
This darned weather won't give us a break. Raining like crazy. Since we are currently parked in the driveway with no plans to go out until next week, we will wait until the rain breaks to do this. No need to be miserable while attempting our first tire removal and repair.
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04-25-2017, 06:55 AM
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By the way, any thoughts in trying to use Anderson leveler to raise up one tire in order to do this?
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04-25-2017, 06:58 AM
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This is by far the easiest way. I've had 3 different trailers and was always
able to stack a few leveling blocks and pull the good tire up on them and
get the other tire off the ground enough to remove it.
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Originally Posted by rockfordroo
If you have the orange/yellow levelers, you can build your own TrailerAid (e.g., ramp).
In the pic above, leave off the bottom right (or left) leveler and use it to go higher. I actually cut one of mine in half so I can make a "triangle" rather than a "pyramid." (I shamelessly stole this idea from another forum member!) |
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04-25-2017, 12:40 PM
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The weather broke, so hubby and I hightailed it outside to take care of the flat. Was far more straightforward than we were expecting. Got the jack well positioned on the frame, raised the TT up, and removed the tire. Upon examination we quickly found the culprit (a screw), and marked the spot with some white spray paint prior to removing it. Then we used our tire repair kit, and got it nicely plugged. We filled the tire with air, tested for leaks of which there were none, and mounted it back to the trailer.
Here are some pics.
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04-25-2017, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaisy
The weather broke, so hubby and I hightailed it outside to take care of the flat. Was far more straightforward than we were expecting. Got the jack well positioned on the frame, raised the TT up, and removed the tire. Upon examination we quickly found the culprit (a screw), and marked the spot with some white spray paint prior to removing it. Then we used our tire repair kit, and got it nicely plugged. We filled the tire with air, tested for leaks of which there were none, and mounted it back to the trailer.
Here are some pics.
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I don't guess I could persuade you into maybe taking that tire back off and getting it properly repaired by any chance? 
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
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04-25-2017, 12:47 PM
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It's the exact same repair a tire place would do, and we've done this on other tires before with success.
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04-25-2017, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaisy
It's the exact same repair a tire place would do, and we've done this on other tires before with success.
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This is not the same repair my tire place would do.
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04-25-2017, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wmtire
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Please consider a patch on the inside to complete the repair properly.
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04-25-2017, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaisy
It's the exact same repair a tire place would do, and we've done this on other tires before with success.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
This is not the same repair my tire place would do.
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JustDaisy, In all honesty, it's not the same that any tire business would do that adheres to RMA guidelines....which I provided a link to.
To be open, I am a tire business/shop owner. We NEVER plug tires like that. Don't even carry the tools and/or plugs. Never have, Never will.
I'm not trying to offend you, but instead trying to educate you on how a tire should be properly repaired.
If you knew how many tires I see in a months time with leaking string plugs and/or separations caused by same, you'd hopefully appreciate why I am trying to convince you to do it different.
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04-25-2017, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
JustDaisy, In all honesty, it's not the same that any tire business would do that adheres to RMA guidelines....which I provided a link to.
To be open, I am a tire business/shop owner. We NEVER plug tires like that. Don't even carry the tools and/or plugs. Never have, Never will.
I'm not trying to offend you, but instead try to educate you on how a tire should be properly repaired.
If you knew how many tires I see in a months time with leaking string plugs and/or separations caused by same, you'd understand why I am trying to convince you to do it different.
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You took the words right out my mouth.
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04-25-2017, 01:52 PM
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Very nice temporary repair.
If it were my tire I would have the tire patched on the inside at a repair shop.
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04-25-2017, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianKen
Very nice temporary repair.
If it were my tire I would have the tire patched on the inside at a repair shop.
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X2. I wouldn't even THINK of doing that kind of temporary repair unless I was on the side of the road with no other options.
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04-25-2017, 02:20 PM
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But when your flat your flat then you will do whatever it takes unless you have a spare. to get home
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04-25-2017, 02:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danny4127
But when your flat your flat then you will do whatever it takes unless you have a spare. to get home
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No argument there. But that doesn't mean you still shouldn't take it to a tire repair facility that adheres to RMA guidelines and have the tire permanently repaired, if still possible then.
You will many plug kits have a similar package statement as below informing the consumer it's a temporary repair, and to get it permanently fixed.
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