Geo Pro 16BH for first purchase

Mrprovy · 08-24-2019, 09:48 PM

I'm considering the Geo Pro 16BH for my first purchase (new). It has all the features we're looking for...bunks for the kids, full dry bath with sink, nice floor plan for 4, and very lightweight for what it offers (looking for ~3K lbs dry). I got an email from RVW about their upcoming big sale and will probably be doing some negotiating Wednesday.

I see a lot of feedback on the 19 series TT's, but not much on the 16's. Any experiences with this camper? Advice on good price to pay (quoted $19,327 finance discount w/off-road and roof racks)?

Also panning on the E2 WDH during purchase along with starter kit from them, a cover, awning over the slide out, rear camera, and maybe an extended warranty. Any insight is appreciated, thanks.

Mrprovy · 08-27-2019, 03:10 AM

I'd like to add that there are no dealers around me that stock these, so I haven't actually been in one. We looked at another trailer (forget who's) that had a similar floor plan to the 19BH.
Has anyone looked at both the 19BH and 16BH side by side? Is there much difference in the interior space? Is the dinette size difference noticeable?

bsinc1962 · 08-27-2019, 12:30 PM

Full disclosure I don't own either one, I have a 19QB.

That being said they both appear to have some nice features. Personally I'm not a fan of the U shaped dinette that becomes your bed. They tend to be uncomfortable. However the regular dinette can be cramped, perfect for 2 people. Add kids and it's very tight. The Queen mattress in our 19QB which is the same as the 19BH is pretty comfortable and we always sleep well. The slide in the 16BH like our 19QB is pretty nice and gives a nice bump in internal space. Dimensionally there's really not a big difference, width and height are similar and the length difference is 18". The appliances are just about the same but the 19BH has a bigger frig which is helpful with kids.

Tough choice if you can't see one in person.

Boomerweps · 08-27-2019, 02:28 PM

Not the same as in person, but you can find a lot of in depth video reviews on most TT on Utube. I decided on what I wanted based on those and then searched for a dealer with one using www.rvtrader.com.

Mrprovy · 08-27-2019, 02:56 PM

Thanks for the responses...I think I've watch just about every video available for both units; I'm leaving toward the 16. I have a queen air mattress that would work fine where the dinette is, and like the larger table for all 4 of us to comfortably sit around.

I actual just got a call from the RVW salesman I've been talking to and am negotiating pricing on a 16BH as I write this

Mrprovy · 08-27-2019, 05:44 PM

Bought it (deposit)...2020 Geo Pro 16BHG w/ off road package, low profile A/C, convection microwave and slide awning.
I think I did Good on price from RVW, also bought the Gold warranty (mechanical, wheels/tires on TT & TV, and paint/fabric).

Thanks again for the reply's.

bsinc1962 · 08-27-2019, 06:14 PM

Awesome, welcome to the GP family.

Al Rod · 08-28-2019, 11:32 AM

Congrats to Mrprovy on sealing the deal on a new G16BH.

I’m almost 100% sold on the G16BH myself. But can anyone tell me if Geo Pros have a sealed insulated undercarriage for cold weather camping? I’ve found no information on underbelly construction in the brochures for the Geo Pro or E Pro. The other two travel trailers I’m looking at (Keystone Passport 175BH / Sonic Lite 169VBH) do have a sealed insulated (heated in Passport’s case) underbelly.

My next step is to see these three campers in person which is a MUST for me. But this has proven difficult living in NYC. It’s hard enough finding a dealer nearby carrying just one of these trailers (Passport dealer 1.5hrs away, Sonic dealer 3hrs away), but a dealer carrying all three trailers.. impossible. Luckily I found out that the annual so called “Largest RV Show in America” is coming up soon at the Giant Center in Hersey PA which is 3 hrs away from me. It runs from September 11 – 15, 2019 and I have tickets for 2 days. I will be able to compare these 3 campers on my current list and hopefully see some new campers that meet my criteria or catch my attention… But I still believe the Geo Pro 16BH may just be The One.

tc cruiser · 08-28-2019, 03:15 PM

Mrprovy
Congrats on the new trailer.
Al Rod
No, the underside is wide open.

TC

tc cruiser · 08-28-2019, 03:18 PM

Al Rod
You should head down to the Hershey RV show in PA in 2 weeks. They will have almost every model to walk through and then you can make a decision which is best for your situation. This show is huge, plan on spending the day.

https://www.visithersheyharrisburg.o...-rv-show/4889/
TC
Also the prices are great at the show.

Mrprovy · 08-28-2019, 03:41 PM

Thanks for the reply's guys, we're super excited!

Al Rod...I'm not to far from you, out east in Suffolk County. I faced the same dilemma not having anywhere within reason to see these campers. We found one in Shirley similar to the 19BH (a cheaper brand) and looked at it to get a feel for the layout. DW was on board with the size, but after watching tons of videos, decided the larger dinette, sink in bathroom, and floor plan being a little wider, we decided on the 16BH.
Based on some of the prices I saw online, plus the NADA pricing, I think I did good after a little negotiating with RVW; the salesman spent a lot of time on the phone and emailing me in the past week answering questions. I did opt to get their Gold warranty (for now).
Although they can deliver the camper (additional $1300) or "caravan" it to me, we decided we'll make the trip to pick it up (~10 hours) from them, which I think will benefit us to learn the camper from our selling dealer. Plus, I'll get some experience towing it home without the kids bouncing around in the back seat.

Al Rod · 08-28-2019, 04:37 PM

Thanks for the info TC Cruiser! Darn, open underbelly huh. That's very surprising and disappointing to learn. Pipes in the underbelly freeze easily late fall in the Adirondacks. For a camper which Forest River promotes as the ultimate boondocking camper, lack of a sealed underbelly is quite oversight. I guess there really isn't a travel trailer that checks everything off one's list. I already have tickets for 2 days at the Hershey RV show. Hopefully I see a camper at the show that fulfills my needs.

Mrprovy · 08-28-2019, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Rod

Thanks for the info TC Cruiser! Darn, open underbelly huh. That's very surprising and disappointing to learn. Pipes in the underbelly freeze easily late fall in the Adirondacks. For a camper which Forest River promotes as the ultimate boondocking camper, lack of a sealed underbelly is quite oversight. I guess there really isn't a travel trailer that checks everything off one's list. I already have tickets for 2 days at the Hershey RV show. Hopefully I see a camper at the show that fulfills my needs.

One of the options that I saw were tank heaters, don't know if it includes a underbelly cover. RVW's website allows you to spec out the units with any options available, then they send an instant "discounted" quote (which requires financing). This week's sale took $1K off before negotiation.

https://www.rvwholesalers.com/invent...earchfor=G16BH

Mrprovy · 09-13-2019, 08:50 PM

Maybe you guys can help me to ensure I have a good pickup experience? Google maps shows a 10+ hour drive there, and RV life shows a 12+ hour drive home.
I've started to make a checklist of thinks I'll need to bring with me to pick up my TT, including tools (ratchet, socket, torque stance, drill, etc), my WDH (decided on and ordered the Andersen), rear view camera, tow mirrors, pillows, outlet tester, temp gun, and a cooler with lots off drinks/hydration including coffee/caffeine. I also have my recovery equipment with us that I normally keep in my truck (jack, stands, stabilizer, compressor, tools, etc).
I have about a month till I pick it up, is there anything else we should bring with us that I maynot have thought of?

tc cruiser · 09-14-2019, 03:39 AM

Mrprovy
Since your 10 hrs away from the dealer, make sure everything works. They should have it set up with a cold fridge running and make sure the water heater works on both electric and propane. Have them show you how to winterize it. They can show where the bypass valves are hidden and what position they need to be in , also the water filter and how to remove it, and how to hook up the antifreeze siphon hose. This will save you a lot of stress and questions when the time comes to do it. Being from NY state you will be doing this soon with the cooler weather coming. Good luck, it is a shame your picking it up so late in the season. Hopefully you get out once or twice with it this year.
TC

LeonineThor · 09-15-2019, 08:29 AM

I know I'm late to the discussion, but I am so excited - I just saw the 16BH in person yesterday (and the 19BH a week ago). I am waiting for a show to get some better pricing but will be buying the 16BH as well. Things I liked better on the 16: The U-dinette has more space to sit around, play games and lounge/stretch out legs if we are cooped up inside. Also the bunk beds in the 16 have little (8" deep maybe) storage pockets at one end - this means if the occupant is on the taller side they have that little bit of extra space to stretch into if needed. Must have sink in bathroom for teeth brushing - also nice storage in the bathroom because I don't know why we always overflow with stuff in there (2 teenagers). I will remove that outdoor fridge and the flimsy panel in that compartment to give more storage. Bummed out there isn't more closed storage on the interior (just nets), and nothing under the the dinette (it's the outside pass-through) - guess that will prevent me from taking everything I had in my 5th and keep the weight down.
The one I looked at was semi-closed underneath and did have tank warmers - I suppose that could be nice, but I personally camp dry IF I'm camping when it is that cold.

Also considering removing microwave for storage because I rarely camp connected to power - BUT, salesman says micro can run off inverter & battery???? Can anyone confirm/debunk this?

Mrprovy · 09-15-2019, 11:00 AM

Thanks for the feedback/info/etc guys. I've started a running checklist of equipment/tools to bring with me along with a PDI checklist that I downloaded from here. I also downloaded RV Life for navigation so Google doesn't lead me down a road that's going to rip the roof off.

I installed a P3 brake controller, ordered the Andersen WDH (dealer sent me the level tongue height so I can set up the ball), got a Haloview RVC (still have to mount the monitor in my truck), and got a transmission temp gauge set up. I think I'm pretty well set for the pickup, especially with the advise given (being a noob & all).

LeonineThor, I'm pleased to hear you really like the 16BH, as I bought this one sight unseen. I too will be removing the outside fridge and, based on the dimensions another member posted for me, will be using the space to house a 3400W dual fuel Champion Generator ( & maybe a spare propane tank, if it fits).

The bathroom sink and larger dinette were the two main reasons we went with this one over the 19 BH as well. I was actually thinking, if they added a sink and a Muphy Bed to the 19BH, it'd be perfect.

**bikendan** · 09-15-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonineThor

Also considering removing microwave for storage because I rarely camp connected to power - BUT, salesman says micro can run off inverter & battery???? Can anyone confirm/debunk this?

That salesman clearly knows NOTHING! Unless you've got a 4 battery bank and large inverter, you could only run the microwave for 5 seconds maybe.
Did he also tell you the a/c could run off the inverter and battery?[emoji37]

Mrprovy · 09-29-2019, 03:06 PM

RVW delivery experience? I'm two weeks away from Picking up our camper, and figured I'd ask here before bugging my salesman. The Geo Pro is touted as being a great boondocking trailer, with solar, two batteries and two propane tanks.
My questions are, are the propane tanks usually delivered full (like the gas tank in a new vehicle purchase)? And, being designed for two batteries, should I expect RVW to deliver it with two batteries installed?

I'm both anxious and excited, as I've learned so much here between the time I committed to the purchase a month ago and now.

fudbuster · 09-29-2019, 04:05 PM

I recently picked up a new Geo Pro at RV Wholesalers. I was surprised to discover that the propane tanks are delivered empty, but that RVW is more than happy to fill the tanks for you for an extra charge. We made the trek from Massachusetts to pick up our new rig, and since we'd be camping on the way home, we paid to have them filled.

The delivery experience was OK. Could have been better. PDI was rushed, but we appreciated that we were not rushed off the property. After signing the paperwork, we were permitted to stay as long as we liked to inspect things, and were able to grab a service tech if we had any questions.

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