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06-02-2023, 10:18 AM
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Geo Pro owners
Considering replacing an older TT with a Geo Pro trailer. Will likely need to store the trailer for extended periods.
Any 2022, 2023 model owners out there? Anyone look at a 2024 yet?
Pros? Cons?
What floor plan do you have?
Would appreciate hearing from you.
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06-04-2023, 11:00 AM
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We have a 2023 GeoPro 19FD, downsized from a class C 34 footer. We're happy with the quality, design and size. Some minor issues, the floor around the dinette is squeaky, and the 12 volt fridge is temperamental and hard to keep at a consistent cool temperature, but I'm still working the issue. I added wiring shelving to the wardrobe closets, extra foam pad in the dinette cushions, cleaned up the wiring, and relocated storage compartment walls to increase storage space. Also added several wood blocks/support to shower pan.
We like the murphy bed, as we had one on our first trailer, a 21DS. And we've adapted to the much small size. Overall, I can recommend the GeoPro.
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06-04-2023, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ox Brown
…I added wiring shelving to the wardrobe closets, extra foam pad in the dinette cushions, cleaned up the wiring, and relocated storage compartment walls to storage space…
…Overall, I can recommend the GeoPro.
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Thank you for your response.
Added wiring? Cleaned up the wiring? Could you be more specific, please?
30 amp service?
How’s the electrical system? How many solar panels, and their output? What batteries do you have — lead-acid, or lithium ion? What capacity?
Can you tow anything behind the Geo Pro trailer?
How’s heating and a/c?
I’m thinking of pre-positioning a trailer filled with radios; search and rescue supplies; food; stored water; clothing… in the Pacific Northwest, likely in a ventilated Quonset hut or pest-proof concrete shelter (120 VAC provided) for professional use.
Likely going to take out the dinette table/seat and put in a desk; also, I need to add receptacles for computers, monitors, radios, and a desk workspace; a place for roll-down maps; walls provided with a place for maps, photos, etc; have the unit wired for a Starlink antenna/cables, and HF, UHF, and VHF antennas/ cables installed: yes, much of that will require custom factory work — but it’s easier to do this before a standard interior is installed. Exactly which floor plan works is still a matter of some debate, but ideally, the 19-22 feet trailer seems to work best, especially if built for off-road use.
Don’t know right now, but it’s possible we might need 50 amp service, which might knock us out of the Geo Pro model.
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Drinks 8, eats 4, sleeps 2.
“Knowledge does not become wisdom until it affects a behavioral change.” — Thomas H. Young
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06-04-2023, 12:41 PM
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RV wiring is a rats nest. I went through all the compartments, dinette benches, and underneath the RV to zip tie and dress the wiring. While I did that, I also vacuumed out all the construction debris left over from the factory.
Electrical is good, although I had the GFCI trip once, but it's been stable since then. The 19FD has a 200 watt solar panel with a 30 amp PWM controller and dual flooded batteries. It's all fully functional, although we don't dry camp, but it keeps the batteries topped off.
Heating and AC both work great. I did have to reattach and tape off the heater ducting since the factory didn't firmly attach the ductwork.
Murphy bed is 74x54, small but very comfortable.
Check out the FR website for much more detailed info.
https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/trave...pro/G19FD/3574
Cheers
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06-05-2023, 08:43 AM
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We have the 20BHS. It's just the two of us, but we liked that the larger dinette/slide makes the trailer feel roomier, and the bunks provide valuable storage space. We had the dealer install a second solar panel which gives us 390w of solar, and I installed three 105ah LiFePO4 batteries under the bed at the front of the trailer, accessible through the pass through.
We haven't taken it out yet, but I think we'll be able to go multiple days without hookups (tank size being the limiting factor). Overall the quality seems OK, probably on par with other brands.
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06-05-2023, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kipkohl
We have the 20BHS. It's just the two of us, but we liked that the larger dinette/slide makes the trailer feel roomier, and the bunks provide valuable storage space. We had the dealer install a second solar panel which gives us 390w of solar, and I installed three 105ah LiFePO4 batteries under the bed at the front of the trailer, accessible through the pass through.
We haven't taken it out yet, but I think we'll be able to go multiple days without hookups (tank size being the limiting factor). Overall the quality seems OK, probably on par with other brands.
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I was looking at some of the GeoPro data and missed notice of tank size: that might be the limit to what I need the TT for — might have to consider the bucket brigade, so to speak, as there likely won’t be any water, power, or septic hookups other than those I bring with me or pre-position.
This may be a silly question, but do you feel at all claustrophobic in a smaller TT?
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2022 Rockwood Signature 8263MBR
Drinks 8, eats 4, sleeps 2.
“Knowledge does not become wisdom until it affects a behavioral change.” — Thomas H. Young
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06-05-2023, 09:24 AM
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Well as I said above, we haven't taken it out yet, but I don't think it will feel claustrophobic; that's the reason we went with the 20BHS. We initially were looking at the 19FD, but decided it might feel too small. We hang out in the trailer often here at home while we get it ready for its maiden voyage, and it seems very comfortable for the two of us. Plus, I fit in the bunk so if we really needed some space, I could crawl in there, LOL. It really is a little cubby of solitude. The one downside of the 20BHS is that it has less carrying capacity and a higher tongue weight than the other models.
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06-05-2023, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kipkohl
Well as I said above, we haven't taken it out yet, but I don't think it will feel claustrophobic; that's the reason we went with the 20BHS. We initially were looking at the 19FD, but decided it might feel too small. We hang out in the trailer often here at home while we get it ready for its maiden voyage, and it seems very comfortable for the two of us. Plus, I fit in the bunk so if we really needed some space, I could crawl in there, LOL. It really is a little cubby of solitude. The one downside of the 20BHS is that it has less carrying capacity and a higher tongue weight than the other models.
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Thank you.
I’m exploring its use as an office of sorts (long story that I won’t bore you with) and was hoping to find the right size… but all trailers are limited by plumbing and the availability of supplies. Mobility is the key, one of which pre-positioned supplies will help with only to the extent that storage space allows, always limited by blackwater tank capacity or alternatives to its use.
When you do go off-grid, do you plan to fill your freshwater tank before leaving or just before departing pavement? If before leaving, let me know how the trailer handled in transit. (What is your TV?)
Please let me know how things work out once you’ve taken your maiden voyage with it.
Again, many thanks.
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2022 Rockwood Signature 8263MBR
Drinks 8, eats 4, sleeps 2.
“Knowledge does not become wisdom until it affects a behavioral change.” — Thomas H. Young
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06-05-2023, 09:57 AM
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Dinette-->Desk
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Originally Posted by ChrisPBacon
Likely going to take out the dinette table/seat and put in a desk; also, I need to add receptacles for computers, monitors, radios, and a desk workspace; a place for roll-down maps; walls provided with a place for maps, photos, etc; have the unit wired for a Starlink antenna/cables, and HF, UHF, and VHF antennas/ cables installed: yes, much of that will require custom factory work — but it’s easier to do this before a standard interior is installed. Exactly which floor plan works is still a matter of some debate, but ideally, the 19-22 feet trailer seems to work best, especially if built for off-road use.
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Before DW came to live with me, she full-timed in a 22-foot unit. It had the conventional dinette, seating four (two on each side), with a table that dropped down to make a bed for two children. She took a crowbar and did an ugly job of removing one bench seat (demolishing it in the process), so she could use an office-style roller chair at the side of the table.
After she came to me, we learned that there is a better way. Take out the table. Make a desk that fits crosswise between the two benches, supported by the benches. This can be as simple as two milk crates and a sheet of plywood spanning the benches, back of one to back of the other. Width of the plywood is maybe half the width of the benches, so you can park the roller chair in the exposed part. (I can clarify this with a drawing if this is unclear.)
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Originally Posted by ChrisPBacon
Likely going to take out the dinette table/seat and put in a desk; also, I need to add receptacles for computers, monitors, radios, and a desk workspace; a place for roll-down maps; walls provided with a place for maps, photos, etc; have the unit wired for a Starlink antenna/cables, and HF, UHF, and VHF antennas/ cables installed: yes, much of that will require custom factory work — but it’s easier to do this before a standard interior is installed. Exactly which floor plan works is still a matter of some debate, but ideally, the 19-22 feet trailer seems to work best, especially if built for off-road use.
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Adding outlets is tricky. The fixtures in trailers are not like those in your home. They are Self-Contained Devices (SCDs) without junction boxes. Very difficult to expand. You will be better served by simply using computer outlet strips.
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06-05-2023, 10:26 AM
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I envision filling with water just prior to arriving at our destination, but being brand new to the whole travel trailer thing, I don't know how do-able that is. We'll be pulling with a 2021 Ford Ranger ( tow capacity 7500lbs, hitch capacity 750lbs, payload 1400.)
This site is full of people with A LOT of experience and knowledge, you will probably get some good info from people with more experience than I.
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08-06-2023, 11:32 PM
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Just seeing this post. My husband and I bought a 23 G20BHS in April, our first ever TT. We love it, but it did have a problem (water leak that the dealer fixed) but other than that, I think it’s great so far. We have gone on 3 weekend trips. Spending three days/two nights out without any hookups and the solar worked amazing. We did purchase a lithium battery to help out. To be able to go days with running power and no need to use a generator etc is pretty cool. We will be going on longer trips soon. I think as others mentioned, the tank capacity is what will limit you.
It is a little bit cramped, my husband and I are both tall and we have four little dogs lol. But we don’t mind. I figure that we are in the trailer to enjoy the outdoors and travel and can stay home if what we are wanting is our private space.
There are still a lot of questions we have, I am trying to find a manual if anyone knows where to get one?
-Kristen
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08-06-2023, 11:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristen209
There are still a lot of questions we have, I am trying to find a manual if anyone knows where to get one?
-Kristen
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There are general manuals available at www.forestriverinc.com and click on the Owners tab.
The manufacturer's of the appliances have manuals on their websites which you can find by using the model number.
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08-07-2023, 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristen209
Just seeing this post. My husband and I bought a 23 G20BHS in April, our first ever TT. We love it, but it did have a problem (water leak that the dealer fixed) but other than that, I think it’s great so far. We have gone on 3 weekend trips. Spending three days/two nights out without any hookups and the solar worked amazing. We did purchase a lithium battery to help out. To be able to go days with running power and no need to use a generator etc is pretty cool. We will be going on longer trips soon. I think as others mentioned, the tank capacity is what will limit you.
It is a little bit cramped, my husband and I are both tall and we have four little dogs lol. But we don’t mind. I figure that we are in the trailer to enjoy the outdoors and travel and can stay home if what we are wanting is our private space.
There are still a lot of questions we have, I am trying to find a manual if anyone knows where to get one?
-Kristen
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The only owners manual is generic and has no model-specific nor brand-specific information. Just basic RV systems information. Last time I checked, all the different travel trailer brand's owners manuals, were the same generic manual.
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08-07-2023, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristen209
Spending three days/two nights out without any hookups and the solar worked amazing. We did purchase a lithium battery to help out.
-Kristen
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Is there room for only a single lithium battery, 2, or 3?
How many solar panels do you have? Know its rating (how many watts)? Room for more?
Thanks.
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2022 Rockwood Signature 8263MBR
Drinks 8, eats 4, sleeps 2.
“Knowledge does not become wisdom until it affects a behavioral change.” — Thomas H. Young
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08-07-2023, 08:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_snowbird
There are general manuals available at www.forestriverinc.com and click on the Owners tab.
The manufacturer's of the appliances have manuals on their websites which you can find by using the model number.
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Thanks, I will check it out.
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08-07-2023, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisPBacon
Is there room for only a single lithium battery, 2, or 3?
How many solar panels do you have? Know its rating (how many watts)? Room for more?
Thanks.
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We just have the standard 200w Solar Panel that came with it and I can’t seem to find the info on the lithium battery, but my husband says that only one will fit in the covered plastic box it goes in. i will have to double check but I’m sure a dealer knows.
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08-08-2023, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristen209
…only one will fit in the covered plastic box it goes in. i will have to double check but I’m sure a dealer knows.
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The nice thing about lithium batteries is that they can be mounted nearly anywhere they will fit, and can be literally be put in upside-down. If they can be mounted inside your trailer, you’ll get better cold-weather performance from them… and you may actually be able to connect a second battery.
I believe that my girlfriend’s brother owns a GeoPro — and has two lithium batteries that he installed. Please allow me a day or two to ask him about this, and I’ll get back to you.
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Drinks 8, eats 4, sleeps 2.
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08-08-2023, 10:31 AM
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Lion energy makes a smaller 105ah LiFePO4 battery. I was able to fit two of them into the stock battery box on our geo pro 20bhs. Plus each battery weighs only 23lbs!
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08-09-2023, 06:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisPBacon
Considering replacing an older TT with a Geo Pro trailer. Will likely need to store the trailer for extended periods.
Any 2022, 2023 model owners out there? Anyone look at a 2024 yet?
Pros? Cons?
What floor plan do you have?
Would appreciate hearing from you.
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I am picking up my 2023 Geo Pro 20FBS in 2 weeks, I opted for that floorplan because I want the extra space of a slide, but am not a fan of the dinette concept, would rather have a couch in that space. I really wanted a version that had both the couch/slide AND a murphy bed instead of the walkaround twin, as that would have been the ultimate space for a few people during non-sleeping times but can live with the bed.
One of the things I wanted and actually lead me to this brand is the Power Package. When I first saw it advertised and knew I had to have it but found very little pricing information or units for sale WITH the package already. Even the prices of regular units varied wildly so it concerned me I wouldn't find one available AND would likely have to pay premium to order one.
After a ton of research and looking for units for sale (with the Power Package) already installed (and I mean weeks of off-and-on searching), I stumbled onto a dealer WITH a 2023 Geo Pro 20FBS and the Power Package, for a price I considered very reasonable. After contacting them for a quote, I got a smoking deal (I still can't believe it frankly) and purchased the next morning (over the phone, as the dealer is 410 miles away).
I know the Power Package components and capabilities, and am very familiar with Lithium batteries and the other electronics. I am so excited to have that capability in a travel trailer, to me, that's the missing piece that's kept me away. The idea of being limited to shore power or sacrificing comfort when boondocked, did not appeal to me, this configuration solves that issue very nicely.
A single 400 Ah Lithium-Ion battery with 600 Watts of solar, a 3,500 Watt inverter/charger combined with 12 Volt fridge and soft-start A/C, make this a powerful and capable package I can't wait to use. I am not fooling myself into thinking I can run A/C when camped with no shore power but also know I can go days off-grid with all the other amenities with no issue. For me, this is the ultimate in both a small but very capable rig...
Jack
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