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Old 06-21-2022, 04:45 PM   #21
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Often found in Mobile Homes too.

Those self contained outlets are often also used in Mobile Homes as well. The main reason they are used is not just because they are cheap but because they are self contained and don't require a box. They require an expensive >$300.00 ratcheting tool on the production line to install them.

I have a 1987 Avion 32' travel trailer that has them and they still work fine. That's not to say that they are always installed properly. As for the thin wall material I can agree to that. My 2012 Forrest River Solera 24MS motorhome has the super thin plywood. It's half the thickness of the birch plywood in my 1987 Avion.

The outlets actually cost about the same if not more than the inexpensive duplex outlets like Eagle or low end Leviton. There is an reasonably difficult to find manual tool that you can buy for repairs or replacement that looks like this.
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Old 06-21-2022, 05:58 PM   #22
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That’s why I travel with my full tool bag. Power tools, screws, nuts and bolts, angle brackets etc.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:12 PM   #23
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Amazon?

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Those self contained outlets are often also used in Mobile Homes as well. The main reason they are used is not just because they are cheap but because they are self contained and don't require a box. They require an expensive >$300.00 ratcheting tool on the production line to install them.

I have a 1987 Avion 32' travel trailer that has them and they still work fine. That's not to say that they are always installed properly. As for the thin wall material I can agree to that. My 2012 Forrest River Solera 24MS motorhome has the super thin plywood. It's half the thickness of the birch plywood in my 1987 Avion.

The outlets actually cost about the same if not more than the inexpensive duplex outlets like Eagle or low end Leviton. There is an reasonably difficult to find manual tool that you can buy for repairs or replacement that looks like this.
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I'm not sure Amazon qualifies as "reasonably difficult to find". Try this link.

My Google search argument was punchdown tool for scd rv outlet and the Amazon link was the first result.

Other links:
https://mhparts.net/snap-on-scd-tool...d-device-tool/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164282152682 (much cheaper)
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I've been successful using a straight blade screwdriver to get the wire positioned, followed by channel lock pliers to fully seat them. And that's with multiple conductors for daisy-chained outlets. Pad the face of the outlet with cardboard to avoid scratching it.
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Old 06-23-2022, 10:43 AM   #25
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Anytime I add/replace a receptacle in our trailer I use a plastic "Old Work" junction box with the flip out locking tabs and use residential-grade receptacles (with USB ports).

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CANTEX-1-Ga...Box/5001729087

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Old 06-23-2022, 02:07 PM   #26
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Thick walls

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Anytime I add/replace a receptacle in our trailer I use a plastic "Old Work" junction box with the flip out locking tabs and use residential-grade receptacles (with USB ports).

https://www.lowes.com/pd/CANTEX-1-Ga...Box/5001729087

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZJBZJYZ...t_details&th=1
You must have really thick walls, or outlets mounted on cabinet sides. There are few added outlets in the Cherokee 38P on panels that back up to a baggage compartment. All the original ones are in 1-1/2" walls, too shallow for an old work box.
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You must have really thick walls, or outlets mounted on cabinet sides. There are few added outlets in the Cherokee 38P on panels that back up to a baggage compartment. All the original ones are in 1-1/2" walls, too shallow for an old work box.
Worked on our bathroom wall.

You can also purchase shallow boxes for thinner walls.
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