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08-30-2013, 07:54 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Alberta
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I have the max payload option.
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09-02-2013, 10:29 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2013
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I have 2013 xlt max tow and have pulled this same unit over 3000 km from Ontario through to the Pocono Mountains numerous times and it works like a dream
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09-02-2013, 10:30 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2013
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If I make any changes to the truck it will probably be air bags
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09-04-2013, 12:23 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
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I pull the 8289WS with a Toyota Tundra 5.7 with added air bags. I have pulled this trailer up and down mountains in Arkansas with no problems. I average 9.5 to 10.5 MPG and have gotten 12.5 but that is with a good tail wind. Down to 7.5 to 9 MPG in the mountains. I like many others watch what I put in the trailer. I only carry about 5 gal of fresh water as we do not dry camp. To help with weight you might consider getting a white 8289WS instead of the diamond package. It will shave off several hundred pounds. I know that is not much but every pound counts when using the smaller truck.
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09-05-2013, 05:34 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 52
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Originally Posted by PrinceValium
Hello everyone...new to the forum! 
The wife and I are thinking about getting a 5th wheel for my 1/2 ton truck. We have looked at a bunch of them and really like the 8289WS. Does anyone here tow theirs with a 1/2 ton truck?
Thanks in advance for your replies. 
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The 8289WS has one of the best setup that we like in a 5th Wheel. The best thing about it is, my Tundra didn't have any problem pulling it. We just got back from another 660 miles camping trip down the Gulf coast.... Wife and I are loving our trailer... We have the Platinum Package, it's got the double A/C, the Fireplace, 2 Lazy boy chairs, etc and it matches the color of my truck! LOL ... it cost us 34 + tax OTD.. Good Luck to you!!!
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09-08-2013, 09:36 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
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We were lookng at this floorplan as well. I know we have lots of power to pull it but I am concerned about the pin weight and my rear axel limit. Can some members give me their actual dry pin weights? I think I will weigh the truck as well. Thanks
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2005 Jayco 25RKS(SOLD)
2011 Jayco 31RKS(SOLD)
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09-08-2013, 10:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
Posts: 10,422
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scalemaster
We were lookng at this floorplan as well. I know we have lots of power to pull it but I am concerned about the pin weight and my rear axel limit. Can some members give me their actual dry pin weights? I think I will weigh the truck as well. Thanks
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My pin weight fully loaded for us is 1650 lbs. According to the cat scales, if I remember right. Took me awhile to figure it out went to the scales 3x's not saying you will have to, but I finally got some help from Dave_Monica. If any member knows about weight he does. You should PM him and he could help you. As far as the unit and quality I have no complaints. I toured the factory and seen the frame they sit on. It is built quite well with 4" channel and gussets welded at the pin site corners,their are some pictures posted somewhere on the forum. It will come with a revolution pin. It can not be changed. It comes from lippard installed already. We even leave the coffee maker on the counter traveling.We have the rear lounge with the lazy boys, that is a great floor plan..........
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09-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scalemaster
We were lookng at this floorplan as well. I know we have lots of power to pull it but I am concerned about the pin weight and my rear axel limit. Can some members give me their actual dry pin weights? I think I will weigh the truck as well. Thanks
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"actual dry pin weight" is a contradiction of terms.
Dry pin weight is the basic unmodified by ANY options pin weight and should never be used for planning.
Actual pin weights are more usefull.
You can get a good idea by using the GVWR of the trailer and multiply it by 20%
For safe handling, your actual pin weight should fall between 15% and 25% of actual loaded camper weight (with 20% optimum).
My Flagstaff 8526RLWS has an dry pin of 1100 pounds but the actual pin weight is closer to 1500 pounds.
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09-08-2013, 02:53 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6
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I just got back from weighing my truck(local DOT leave there scales on 24/7 for free). Truck weighed just under 6000lbs with full fuel and 2 people. I am allowed 16000 gross combination of truck and trailer so I should be ok with the 8289WS. The problem is my rear axel weight was 2535 lbs and my max is 4200 lbs. This gives me only 1665 lbs for pin weight(no 5th wheel mounted yet as well). Not sure if that is enough once I add 100lbs for a 5th wheel. Looks like I would be just over the limit on my rear axel. Thanks
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09-08-2013, 03:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: X
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You will probably find that you are over your payload limit (GVWR-Actual Truck Weight) more than you are over the rear axle limit.
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09-09-2013, 10:42 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Northern California
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryD0706
You will probably find that you are over your payload limit (GVWR-Actual Truck Weight) more than you are over the rear axle limit.
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I would think it would be the other way around...he would go over the GAWR before getting anywhere near going over the GVWR
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09-09-2013, 07:17 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6
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Has anyone ever added a storage unit behind the rear bumper to remove some hitch weight? Does FR offer a bike rack or hitch on the rear these units? Good place to put the generator and some wood.
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09-09-2013, 07:28 PM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Originally Posted by PrinceValium
I would think it would be the other way around...he would go over the GAWR before getting anywhere near going over the GVWR
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I'm with Barry on this one. More often than not, GVWR, is the first spec to be exceeded. In fact, many people make the choice that as long as they're under GAWR, they're willing to exceed GVWR.
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09-09-2013, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scalemaster
Has anyone ever added a storage unit behind the rear bumper to remove some hitch weight? Does FR offer a bike rack or hitch on the rear these units? Good place to put the generator and some wood.
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When I was at the factory tour the question was asked about bike racks. The answer and I quote FR will not warranty a frame with a bike rake installed on the bumper. Now saying that the Service Manager Doug said that if you took the spare off and had the same weight as that on your bumper they would look the other way unquote......
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09-09-2013, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: X
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A generator and some wood is going to be way heavier than a spare tire.
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09-10-2013, 02:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 368
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Many similar questions had been asked about putting something at the back of ultralight or light TT or 5th wheels. Overwhelming answers: NO, NO. If you do not add more "beef" to the frame which of course would void warranty immediately in case of problems you will very likely find even bikes added at the back sooner or later dragging on the road or lost. Of course if you are out of warranty or do not care about warranty a good hitch and truck shop can build something.
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09-10-2013, 07:51 AM
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L and F Martinez
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I tow a 2013 Rockwood 8280 with my 1/2 Ton Chevy Silverado without a problem and keep up with all traffic. I do however, have a 11,500 lb towing capacity. I ordered the truck with the 6.0 ltr engine, max towing package and 411 gears which makes a big difference. We towed over the Blue Ridge Mountains last week and I got 8 mpg in the mountains. The only thing I did was add air bags to the rear suspension to level it out a bit. The pin weight is about 1100 lbs. My 2013 came with the Reese Revolution pin and I love it. Because it turns on the trailer and not the hitch I can make a u-turn when towing just about anywhere. With the reese revoultion you may not need a slider hitch, worth checking out.
Good Luck! Larry
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09-10-2013, 03:41 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6
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Yes I agree something on the bumper could be a hazard. I was thinking of something like a Curt hitch which bolts directly to the frame and has a receiver. Anyway maybe i'm stretching it a bit. The truck is a little heavy with the big engine and the rear axle would be over about 100-150 lbs as is. Thanks for all the input.
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09-10-2013, 04:20 PM
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Mod free 5er
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 24,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gljurczyk
...It is built quite well with 4" channel and gussets welded at the pin site corners,their are some pictures posted somewhere on the forum...
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I do believe it is 2" x 4" x 0.150" rectangular steel tubing with 0.150" gussets.
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09-10-2013, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
I do believe it is 2" x 4" x 3/16" rectangular steel tubing with 3/16" gussets.
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Thanks Old Man for the correction nobody knows steel like you do. I didn't mean to mislead anyone....Thanks for the correction........
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