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Old 09-29-2011, 12:50 PM   #1
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Signature Ultra Lite

We are looking for a new fw, and the Rockwood Signature UltraLite model 8285 is at the top of our short list. Does anybody care to comment good or bad on this particular model, and/or the SUL line of fw's in general.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:07 PM   #2
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I have the signature ultralight 8313. I have a 2008 and I am the second owner. We have used it a lot in the year we have owned it and we love it and have had minimal problems.FR has been available to answer questions.
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We have the Flagstaff 8526RLWS Signature Ultralite. The Rockwood line has an identical floorplan. http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/def...series=8WideFW

We love ours. Dishes stay put since they are located between the wheels and everything is available including the dinette when the slides are closed.

We can sleep in the master bedroom (even with the WS slide closed. Access everything in the kitchen (including the pantry!); go to the bathroom; and even eat in the Dinette; all without opening a slide.

There is 18 inches between the two main slides when closed.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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Lou,

Quick followup on your comments. We have studied that floorplan in both a Rockwood and a Keystone product. Wife likes the room very much when opened, but we typicaly stay gone 3-5 months when we travel. We tend to set inside and watch tv a lot so I think we'd miss not having chairs to set in. Your thoughts?
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We have a Rockwood 2009 8314BSS with rear livingroom. Came with leather recliners. We really enjoy the room and only praise for the Rockwood units and Forest River.
We subscribe to Trailerlife and we have note that Keystone seem to be the one company that is always in their letters from owners with problems getting resolution to unit problems. I've noted that Keystone seems to refuse to cover problems. Just something my better half and I have noticed. Forest River has been excellent with anything we've encountered. The Dealer is also something to check out. A great dealer makes ownership easy.

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Lou,

Quick followup on your comments. We have studied that floorplan in both a Rockwood and a Keystone product. Wife likes the room very much when opened, but we typicaly stay gone 3-5 months when we travel. We tend to set inside and watch tv a lot so I think we'd miss not having chairs to set in. Your thoughts?

If that's the case, check the floorplan of the Flagstaff 8528CKWS. Perfect for what you want. Great flow and floorplan.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:58 PM   #7
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I have the 2011 Rockwood 8280WS Ultra lite that I pull with my 1/2 ton Toyota Tundra. Absolutely no problems. Great combination. Best feature is the two Lazyboy recliners. I have been caught snoozing many times while watching TV....
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Lou,

Quick followup on your comments. We have studied that floorplan in both a Rockwood and a Keystone product. Wife likes the room very much when opened, but we typicaly stay gone 3-5 months when we travel. We tend to set inside and watch tv a lot so I think we'd miss not having chairs to set in. Your thoughts?
We have two large size bag chairs for surround sound movies.

Typically my DW sits at the dinette multi-tasking with her iPad while I watch the movie. from the couch or bag chair. The TV does swivel to face the couch or dinette, but then the surround speakers are not optimum.
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I have to say we really like our 8285! We just purchased it this January and spent a month in Florida. We then pulled it from Virginia to out west this summer, 5 weeks and 10,000 miles. If you do a search on this forum for 8285 ws you will find a lot of info. I would get the upgrade 15K AC. I also removed the tv stand in the bedroom and added a flat screen TV. Also don't forget to get the 2nd year warranty from forest river (I think it was only $150). Most dealers won't tell you about this as they want to sale you a warranty (highly profitable for them). Be sure to shop around as prices can vary $10,000.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:41 PM   #10
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Thanks folks. Based on the comments here, we have pretty much decided we're going for this unit. We are dealing on one now, his offer is just a little high, but I haven't counter offered yet. Just got awarded my VA disability,and waiting for the retro pay to show up.
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Good Luck and hope you enjoy yours as much as we enjoy ours. 2008 8285
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The Flagstaff 8528CKWS, or equivalent Rockwood, is the one to get if you might be spending more time inside, as you indicated. The rear living room layout is the best.
You might also check out the Crusader rear living room model, but it is a bit heavier and the basement is much smaller. But the living room layout is nice.
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Just returned from a 6008 mile trip----

We just returned from a 6008 mile trip from Florida to Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia Canada. It was a great trip. I have just sent Forest River/ Rockwood a thank you E-Mail for building a fine, lite weight fifth wheel. After the bugs were ironed out after the first couple shake down trips, we have no complaints about our Rockwood 8285WS.
We love ours, for it has performed better than expected.

There are a lot of good RVs mentioned on this forum (and I mean many).
Read all you can, look at problems caused by owners and problems caused by who built it. Email owners of different models and floor plans by private email if necessary, pick their brains about any problems they may have had.

Flagstaff and Rockwood fifth wheels come off the same assembly line, out the same door. They have the same spec's, but just different colors inside
and graphics outside. All else is the same.

You will be investing a lot of money in your RV, take your time about your decision, I like to read about happy people and their RV on this forum. To be honest, I even like to read about some of the problems too.

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Anyone know the GVW on the Flagstaff 8528CKWS?
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Herk, the 8528CKWS is about 9600 GVWR, about 200 pounds heavier than mine, and 1600 pounds on the hitch, also almost 200 more than me. That is probably due to the bedroom wardrobe slide in the CKWS, which I don't have.
All things considered, these Flagstaff/Rockwood lightweights are definitely top notch for quality and value for the dollar spent. The Prime Time campers are more money, and like I said before, have a much smaller basement, which is a huge deal when you think about it.
If I was to do it over, I would buy the exact same camper we have. I spent a lot of time and looked at a lot of campers, and the fit and finish of the Flagstaff/Rockwood are second to none in their price range, and even better than some more expensive brands.
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Herk, the 8528CKWS is about 9600 GVWR, about 200 pounds heavier than mine, and 1600 pounds on the hitch, also almost 200 more than me. That is probably due to the bedroom wardrobe slide in the CKWS, which I don't have.
All things considered, these Flagstaff/Rockwood lightweights are definitely top notch for quality and value for the dollar spent. The Prime Time campers are more money, and like I said before, have a much smaller basement, which is a huge deal when you think about it.
If I was to do it over, I would buy the exact same camper we have. I spent a lot of time and looked at a lot of campers, and the fit and finish of the Flagstaff/Rockwood are second to none in their price range, and even better than some more expensive brands.

Agree 100%.. Value for dollar, my Flagstaff 8528 beat others hands down. I have not had any warranty issues since I purchased this unit and I cannot comment on customer service. I would say that's a good thing. I have heard many other posters exalting the great customer service of their respective manufacturer. ( Can't mention them on the grounds of incrimination) Customer service is good, but not having to use it is better.
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Thanks guys. I like that TT a lot. If I had it to do over again, I might be pulling a TT instead of my 5th wheel.

They did not have a floorplan like that in anything in my weight range when I was looking. (Except the Flagstaff I bought)

Can you access the kitchen with the slides closed? Being able to access the bath and kitchen was a "must have" when we were shopping.
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i have had a lot of problems with my 2011 Rockwood 8281ss so far the warranty has covered everything, i just pray all of the bug are out of it
when i picked it up the last time from the dealer i had water on my kitchen table and the air conditioner was above it so i started poking around and found the 2 screws that hold the thing to the roof were loose and the water was coming in under the seal ( a poor set up if you ask me )

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Thanks guys. I like that TT a lot. If I had it to do over again, I might be pulling a TT instead of my 5th wheel.

They did not have a floorplan like that in anything in my weight range when I was looking. (Except the Flagstaff I bought)

Can you access the kitchen with the slides closed? Being able to access the bath and kitchen was a "must have" when we were shopping.

If you're referring to the 8528 ckws, mine is a fifth wheel, not a TT. You cannot access the kitchen with slides in. Nor can you access the bedroom. I don't see this as an issue, since anytime I need access to those areas, I simply push a button. The bathroom is accessible with all slides in, the most important part because that would be the area I would need quickest access to.
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I guess that is the only real difference between Rugged Brown's fifth and ours, as they reversed the kitchen layout and added the wardrobe slide. We have full access to the kitchen and bedroom with the slides in. That is a definite plus if one was inclined to take a nap at a rest stop on a long trip, as you can't push the slides out. And it was just one more consideration that we looked at before buying.
And some of the rear kitchen models are even worse as the slide covers the fridge door. Whoever designed those should have their heads examined!
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