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08-07-2019, 07:01 PM
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I'm anticipating a problem with this...
So, I bought a new 2013 3170DS Sunseeker motorhome from a local dealer when the 2013 Sunseeker models first came out. The dealer paperwork and registration all said “2013”, but since we financed it, we didn’t get the title (the bank holds it). I recently paid the loan off and the bank mailed the title to me with the lien release stamp. The title shows that the motorhome was built on a 2012 E-450 chassis, and I remember the dealer telling me that when I bought it. But, I didn’t realize until I just received the title, that the title was going to say “2012 E-450”, not “2013 Sunseeker”.
So the E-450 (the cab & chassis) was a 2012 Ford model, the motorhome was built on that chassis and registered as a Forest River Sunseeker 2013 model. I’ve heard of this before on this site, but my problem I’m thinking will be when I go to sell this motorhome as a “2013 Sunseeker”, and show the buyer the title which says “2012 E-450”. If I was the buyer, I’d probably walk figuring it seems fishy, even though the vehicle ID numbers match on all the paperwork. Has anyone on here run into problems when selling a motorhome that is a year different than the title date of the chassis?
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08-07-2019, 07:05 PM
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Site Team
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The difference between the model year of the chassis and the completed MH is fairly common and should not be a problem. Simply explain to the potential buyer if asked. If they search to verify they will see this.
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08-07-2019, 07:05 PM
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Who Dares, Wins
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
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That is often the case where the incomplete chassis sits around for a few years sometimes before being made into an rv. Not sure there is much to do. Your state is looking at the chassis Vin for the date. If someone is buying your rv they will need to understand that is how it is done.
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08-07-2019, 07:46 PM
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I had the same thing happen on my insurance. The company used the VIN date and not the manufacturer's certificate of origin date. It took my insurance agent a week to explain to the company why they needed to fix their program. But they did.
My concern was if we had a totaled vehicle they would try to say it was a year older than the actual model year.
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08-07-2019, 07:52 PM
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I would say it’s Not a deal breaker on anything over 5 years old. And when they get to 10 or so it’s a non issue!
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08-07-2019, 07:57 PM
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ultimately, no matter WHAT a title or registration from a 'state' will say, the YEAR MODEL that the Manufacturer provides IS the year model of the RV, period.
If the potential buyer is really 'concerned', then a simple call to the manufacturer will give them the correct information.
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08-07-2019, 09:03 PM
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Site Team
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My 2018 Forester is on a 2017 Ford chassis.
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08-08-2019, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
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I printed out the RVIA document and bclemens post. It will be much more believable for the potential buyer to see this explained in writing than for me to try to explain it verbally. So, thank you for these links.
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08-08-2019, 06:14 PM
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Senior Member
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This seems to be a common concern. I recently bought a 2020 Forester 3011DS on a 2018 Ford E-450 chassis. I would not worry about it. It's how the business works.
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08-09-2019, 07:31 AM
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2018 Class C on a 2017 chassis here. If it was me buying, I would be more interested in the mileage and maintenance record.
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08-10-2019, 07:46 AM
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Junior Member
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Had a 90 LaSalle with a 89 P chassis. That’s how far back this practice goes.
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08-10-2019, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies!
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08-11-2019, 08:54 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Central Iowa
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My experience with split chassis/rv model year
My 2018 RV was built on a 2017 chassis. The bill of sale was for a 2018 but when I got the title from the state (Iowa) it showed a 2017 model year. The dealer I bought it from didn't have a clue ('that's just the way it works') but Dynamax helpfully supplied both the Mercedes and Dynamax certificates of origin. When I took them to the DMV the clerk saw the problem right away and issued me a new title.
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08-12-2019, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ketchukf
When I took them to the DMV the clerk saw the problem right away and issued me a new title.
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Just wondering what the DMV changed your new title to... "2017 Mercedes" or "2018 Isata"?
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08-12-2019, 10:30 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Central Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuickGS
Just wondering what the DMV changed your new title to... "2017 Mercedes" or "2018 Isata"?
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They changed it from '2017 Isata' to '2018 Isata'.
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