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04-05-2016, 10:13 AM
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Land of the Midnightsun
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Lifting front wheels off ground
I have a new concord 300ds and at times the auto jacks will lift front tires a little ways off ground. Leaving this way for couple days at camp ground will it do damage to front end?
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04-05-2016, 10:24 AM
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You are opening a can of worms. Run a search on this site for "wheels off ground" and get as many opinions as you can handle. Just a suggestion.
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04-05-2016, 10:36 AM
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The coach jacks are designed to hold the weight of the coach without time limits that I know of. The front wheels free of the ground should not pose a problem however the same cannot be said of the back as the rear tires are the ones the parking brake hold.
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04-05-2016, 11:48 AM
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Since it's a motorhome, they're designed completely different than a RV trailer. Having the leveling system lift the front wheels off the ground isn't a problem.
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04-06-2016, 06:50 PM
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They leave cars/trucks on lifts for weeks at a time sometimes, so I'd say should be good.
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04-06-2016, 06:58 PM
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My front wheels on both previous class A's were often in the air. I do a lot of desert dry camping and finding level ground isn't easy. I trust the auto level systems.
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04-06-2016, 08:35 PM
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X5 on bubbles comments.... A couple months ago a thread started and went in every direction..and as many opinions...
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04-07-2016, 05:04 AM
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My opinion...remember where ya got it! 
Front wheels off the ground is not an issue. However it makes me uneasy so I use Lynx Levelers. Rear wheels off the ground is a nogo for me. That is what "locks" the camper and keeps if from rolling. YMMV
Just as an added note, I have noticed that I can quite often keep the camper closer to the ground by using the manual mode rather than the automatic mode.
Aaron 
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04-07-2016, 07:08 AM
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Land of the Midnightsun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoonc
My opinion...remember where ya got it!
Front wheels off the ground is not an issue. However it makes me uneasy so I use Lynx Levelers. Rear wheels off the ground is a nogo for me. That is what "locks" the camper and keeps if from rolling. YMMV
Just as an added note, I have noticed that I can quite often keep the camper closer to the ground by using the manual mode rather than the automatic mode.
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I kind of figured front tires off ground be ok and I'd never lift rear off ground eather unless flat. Didn't see can of worms coming but MAN! I've read some out of control threads on here. I love a good sarcastic crack but some have very very unique ideas. Tire talk is ridiculous And poor man that asked if he could move his TT around with riding lawn mower? WOW I had no comment but would love to watch. Lol
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04-07-2016, 07:31 AM
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I had my front off the ground last weekend camping, no issues. I do use some 2x10 wooden blocks doubled I made so the hydraulic rams don't extend as far down. This seems to keep it more stable. Try not to raise the rear axle as said before, that's your park brake and you risk rolling.
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04-08-2016, 11:24 AM
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Found that the auto-level tends to raise the rig higher than the manual method. I put the high side jacks down just enough for stability and then bring up the low side. Very stable and closer to the ground. (Would NEVER get rear wheels off the ground.)
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04-08-2016, 12:24 PM
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Leveling With Wheels Off The Ground
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Originally Posted by SeaDog
The coach jacks are designed to hold the weight of the coach without time limits that I know of. The front wheels free of the ground should not pose a problem however the same cannot be said of the back as the rear tires are the ones the parking brake hold.
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If you stay at the big Stone Mountain campground in Atlanta, in many sites you have no options other than jacking the rear wheels off the ground or just leaving the campground. So you better have to some good sturdy chocks to block the front tires since having the parking break locked will not keep the jacks from tilting. Sometimes I have actually used small boulders.
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04-08-2016, 12:33 PM
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My take on the autolevel raising higher than manual, is that it does raise it higher, but I find that at that level, the rig is more stable. While in FL I actually bumped mine up just a tad as the pads had settled in the sand. It was still level, and still raised, but I could feel more movement in the coach that went away with a little more weight on the jacks.
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04-08-2016, 05:04 PM
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Wish I took a picture I seen a class a with front passenger door as there entryway they had a staircase to get in. I told him it be a good time for oil change
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04-08-2016, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverArrowPro
They leave cars/trucks on lifts for weeks at a time sometimes, so I'd say should be good.
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I don't think that is the concern.
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04-09-2016, 08:17 AM
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blocks, logs, beavers, bolders.....
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04-09-2016, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike.t
I don't think that is the concern.
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Sounded like the concern was the front end elements, tierods ball joints, etc... no?
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04-09-2016, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverArrowPro
Sounded like the concern was the front end elements, tierods ball joints, etc... no?
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Very possible I was thinking strain on hydraulics.
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04-09-2016, 08:39 PM
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Do it all the time
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverArrowPro
Sounded like the concern was the front end elements, tierods ball joints, etc... no?
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Life the wheels up frequently
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04-10-2016, 11:36 PM
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One other datapoint- although I agree in principle that there is no real issue with front wheels off the ground, I've noticed that the house door becomes difficult to open/close. When we are in a place that requires lifting the front wheels off of the ground, it seems to change the frame deflection ever so slightly, and the door striker doesn't quite line up. Enough that my 10 year old isn't able to open or close the door.
YMMV, but it's enough of a concern that I've ordered a set of Lynx blocks to try and avoid it in the future.
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