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Old 03-08-2015, 01:14 AM   #1
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233s owners. Slide out question

I picked up my new 233s today. During the walk through the technician told me that if my battery died, the only way the manual crank would work to bring in the slide out would be if I cut the wires to the motor. I don't understand how cutting the wires to a motor that is already dead would make a difference. Am I missing something?
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:26 AM   #2
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Hmm, that's a good question. It could be that with a dead battery that there is still *some* juice left in it. Enough to make the motors lock in position. Do you have a battery disconnect (that actually disconnects power to the slide motor(s))? That should accomplish the same as cutting the wires.

On edit: I don't know your camper nor slide mechanism, though.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:48 AM   #3
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Hmm, that's a good question. It could be that with a dead battery that there is still *some* juice left in it. Enough to make the motors lock in position. Do you have a battery disconnect (that actually disconnects power to the slide motor(s))? That should accomplish the same as cutting the wires.

On edit: I don't know your camper nor slide mechanism, though.
I have a disconnect. I asked and all he said was that the wires had to be cut for it to work. I may just have to give it a shot with the battery disconnected and see what happens...
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:56 AM   #4
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Check out this thread

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...tml#post477655

Also you have to disconnect the battery. There is a motor park mode to prevent the slide from coming out during travel. It is wired directly to the battery. Using the battery disconnect switch will not work.


Also search for Scwhintek on this forum and YouTube.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:05 AM   #5
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Here are instruction from Lippert for Schwintek slide.....if you have similar controller.

http://www.primetimerv.com/download/...leshooting.pdf
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Interesting. I don't recall being told that during our walkthrough. The IOM doesn't mention that either. I'm pulling mine out for storage this week for trip so I may have to try it (without cutting wires) and see what happens.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:45 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the info. The biggest difference in mine is that there is a manual crank to bring the slide back in. You don't push it in after unplugging it.

Glindz233S, let me know how that goes. The technician said the motor was butt connected of course so you cannot just "unplug it!"
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Where do you crank your slide from? Outside trailer underneath entrance steps?
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... There is a motor park mode to prevent the slide from coming out during travel. It is wired directly to the battery. Using the battery disconnect switch will not work.
Good to know. New information, for me. That's an argument in favor of the practice by some users of installing a disconnect switch on the battery box, for convenience. It's also an argument against that switch being off, while traveling.
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Where do you crank your slide from? Outside trailer underneath entrance steps?
On the opposite side from the slide on the exterior. There is a hole on the lower valence you put the hand crank through.
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Good to know. New information, for me. That's an argument in favor of the practice by some users of installing a disconnect switch on the battery box, for convenience. It's also an argument against that switch being off, while traveling.
But does that also mean if your battery is completely drained your slide might come out???
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OK so you probably have a Lippert electric slide. That is the type I have on my unit. Here is manual. No, if battery is drained, slide will not come out. Some units will come with slide locks that you install before travelling, some units don't. I have the slide locks on my unit and use all the time.

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On a 23IKSS it's a Schwintek slide curbside, and a regular Lippert through-frame roadside. I never heard anyone say cut the motor on a Schwintek - that's dumb. If you need to bring one in manually, you unplug the motors from the controller and push the slide in, and then reconnect to the controller so the motor brake is powered. If a motor isn't spinning, you have to loosen the hold screw on each motor and pull them up out of the track and then push the slide in. After you get it in, push the motors back down to engage the track, seat the screw, and plug them back into the controller.
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On a 23IKSS it's a Schwintek slide curbside, and a regular Lippert through-frame roadside. I never heard anyone say cut the motor on a Schwintek - that's dumb. If you need to bring one in manually, you unplug the motors from the controller and push the slide in, and then reconnect to the controller so the motor brake is powered. If a motor isn't spinning, you have to loosen the hold screw on each motor and pull them up out of the track and then push the slide in. After you get it in, push the motors back down to engage the track, seat the screw, and plug them back into the controller.
I don't even know where the controller is. I have a switch on my master control panel to bring it in and out. When I told the tech , "you mean unplug the motor" he said no, that the motor used butt connectors and would have to cut.
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I don't even know where the controller is. I have a switch on my master control panel to bring it in and out. When I told the tech , "you mean unplug the motor" he said no, that the motor used butt connectors and would have to cut.
No, that's not correct for a Schwin... Take a look yourself and you'll see there's a ribbon cable from the motors. The actual controller is behind the fixed door (or panel - some say FR didn't use a screwed shut door on theirs but instead a recessed, screwed-in panel) at the e-center. If I had that unit, you bet that door would get hinges and a catch!

Even your other slide-out - the standard Lippert through-slide - you just disconnect the battery since the feed comes direct from the battery through an auto-resetting automotive circuit breaker. This is why we install battery disconnects AT the battery and not at the power center with FR TTs.
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No, that's not correct for a Schwin... Take a look yourself and you'll see there's a ribbon cable from the motors. The actual controller is behind the fixed door (or panel - some say FR didn't use a screwed shut door on theirs but instead a recessed, screwed-in panel) at the e-center. If I had that unit, you bet that door would get hinges and a catch!

Even your other slide-out - the standard Lippert through-slide - you just disconnect the battery since the feed comes direct from the battery through an auto-resetting automotive circuit breaker. This is why we install battery disconnects AT the battery and not at the power center with FR TTs.
Hmmm. I will take a peek.

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Hmmm. I will take a peek.

Thanks.
You bet! The Schwins have their quirks, but still better than cable controlled slide-outs! They are a good problem solver, like in the case of your 23IKSS where you have the opposing slide-outs that won't allow for installation of two sets of conventional slides.

The real thing with the Schwin is to make sure it always stays in-sync. If you notice the slide not coming in evenly, address it right away!
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Since you don't have a Schwintek, there is no controller. Only a switch that operates motor slide.
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Since you don't have a Schwintek, there is no controller. Only a switch that operates motor slide.
fonzie, the 23IKSS has a Schwin for the kitchen slide AND a Lippert through-frame for the opposing slide. He has a controller. The switch is remote from it.
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