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Old 08-19-2017, 08:48 AM   #1
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Do you like to "Rock and Roll"?

Just how much movement should I expect in my bunk ends? When someone on the sofa sleeper rolls over at night, we can feel it in the bunk ends.

We started with just chocks on the wheels and and the built in stabilizers. We could feel every movement. Then I purchased X Chocks. It helped a little but I can still feel movement.

I've been considering JT Strongarms or BAL Lock Arms but DW states, "It's a camper, it's supposed to move". She's recalling her childhood days in a pop-up.

So how much "movement" is expected and acceptable in a Hybrid?

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Old 08-19-2017, 08:58 AM   #2
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In your ROO/Sham you are Sleeping at the End of the "Pivot Point" move to the center on the Table Bed! After 1 night on THAT BED you will not complain about Movement! Youroo!!
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:31 AM   #3
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We don't have a table bed. We opted for the table/chairs option.
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:37 AM   #4
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Do you use X-chocks on both sides? I noticed a significant improvement after adding an additional X-chock. It won't prevent all movement, but it really helps. Make sure they are really tight (you can't over tighten them using the short handled wrench they come with).
You'll never be able to get rid of all movement. It's a lightweight trailer on wheels.
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Old 08-19-2017, 10:42 AM   #5
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I do use them on both sides and I tighten them until I start to see the rubber tread depress.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:01 AM   #6
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We've had a pop up and now a HTT and both have a lot of movement on one end when someone rolls over or moves on the other side. I did a lot of research on how to remove that movement from the HTT and was finally about to buy something when I realized that I was so used to it sleeping at night that I don't even notice it anymore. Accept it/ignore it, you will get used to it. If it really really bothers you then I would suggest looking at the Steadyfast products. I don't have any first hand experience but it's what I had settled on after doing a lot of research before I realized that I don't really need it. The other thing is that I'm all about maximizing my time and effort for setup/breakdown, doing as little as possible to get the most time camping and the least time setting up and breaking down. I realize setup of these items only costs a few minutes, but they all add up.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:04 AM   #7
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We have a 29' TT and even our 11 lb Dachshund can make the trailer noticeably move. I have X chocks on both sets of wheels and the corner scissor jacks. I bought a set of Screw jacks and put them under the frame near the axels to try to eliminate the bounce you get from the tires and suspension. They helped a lot but are a royal pain to put in and out as they are right where the two slide outs are. I'm in the process of installing a JT Strongarm setup and hope that does the trick.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:50 AM   #8
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Ron, I agree with your wife.
With tandem wheel chocks and the stabilizers, it was good enough for us.
As was said, it's an ultralight trailer so it's not as rigid as other trailers.
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:02 PM   #9
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You can make any trailer very stable and firm but it takes work/money. The corner scissor jacks are very weak at stabilizing. The screw jacks are very good. It works. the strong arms are good too. Both together are fantastic.
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:33 PM   #10
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Triangulation stabilizers, between the wheel chocks, step supports, and extra jacks. It all depends on how firm you want it.

You'll always feel some movement unless you lift the camper off of the springs but you can minimize/dampen it.

See if this helps:
http://learntorv.com/shake-shake-sha...stabilization/

For triangulation stabilizers, I like the SteadyFast system:
http://learntorv.com/product-review-...t-stabilizers/
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:46 PM   #11
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Just get some x chocks and jt strongarms, I wouldn't own a camper without them after using them as far as I am concerned they are a must have. They are a lot of work to install but really worth it, night and day difference, i also like the little step stabilzer i got off amazon, it is adjustable to the terrain.
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Old 08-20-2017, 05:44 AM   #13
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a camper is not built on a concrete slab foundation like a house. Some movement is to be expected due to frame flexing, etc.
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Old 08-20-2017, 07:33 AM   #14
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the way I see it short of jacking up the camper and put cement blocks under it. (walk in a mobile home that's on a lot and not set up you will feel movement. ) you have to get use to it or just stay in a motel
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the way I see it short of jacking up the camper and put cement blocks under it. (walk in a mobile home that's on a lot and not set up you will feel movement. ) you have to get use to it or just stay in a motel
X2 ^^^^^^

I guess this form of relaxation is not for everyone.
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Yeah, there's going to be some movement and that should be expected. However, I think some of it depends on what you get used to as well as the people using the unit. Our son is a big guy - 6'2" and 300#+. When he rolled over in our Roo, the people in the next site could feel it.
Along with X-chocks on both sides and a step support, we used Valterra stabilizers. One under the back bumper and one under the front of the frame behind the propane tanks. Took out the vast majority of movement. When we moved to a Flagstaff 27BESS, everything was transferred to the new unit.
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When we were younger we had a sticker on our TT that said,,,
If This Trailer Is A Rockin Don't Come A Knocking !!!


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Old 08-22-2017, 06:50 AM   #18
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I use two X-chocks which are generally fine, but, I do notice that the stabilizers work their way loose and I snug them up daily. This could be part of the problem.
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We use our organic stabilizers and X-chocks. As was stated it will move. One thing I did notice though is that the stabilizers are much more effective when they are not FULLY extended.

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