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08-02-2024, 12:57 PM
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Mattress upgrade
Hello,
I have a 24 shamrock 233s and I'm looking to upgrade a mattress. I see there is alot of rv custom mattresses avalible online, including putting hinges in them where ever you want. I was wondering if anyone has done this, which company they went with and if they had any tips when submitting the measurements.
Thanks alot
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08-02-2024, 02:46 PM
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can’t help you with custom, because I’m still rocking the OEM stock heated mattresses, but we put a foam topper on ours. note that you have to carry the foam topper separately, so it probably won’t work for you.
We typically use the camper as a couples trailer, and only deployed the front bunk
OEM Mattress sizing (Including both halves, as well as the thickness difference between the two halves) is as follows:
F100100894- MATTRESS - SOP: HEATED FOAM MATTRESS, HINGED - TEDDY BEAR CHARCOAL - 4 1/2" X 17" X 73 1/2" TH 5 1/2" X 40" X 73 1/2" - V# 786387
so you see the short 1/2 of the mattress is 17 inches wide, then the fold, then 40 inches wide. The whole thing is 73 1/2 inches long. The 17 inch side is 4 1/2 inches thick, and the 40 inch wide side is 5 1/2 inches thick (which helps the mattress lay flat on the uneven sleeping surface: the padded bench and the deployed platform.) Make sense?
Just my two cents. Hope this helps.
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08-02-2024, 03:02 PM
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Memory foam topper all the way. Super mega comfy.
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08-02-2024, 03:09 PM
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Thanks very much! I went with a Dormeo mattress topper, I'll get it in a week
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08-02-2024, 04:02 PM
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We rolled the dice about 8 years ago and ordered a 8" Memory Foam-Cool Gel RV Queen from Walmart. $248 Ship to Store & Out The Door. Sleeps better than the Tempur-Pedic at home. Came in a box. Expanded completely in 16 hours. No off gassing.
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08-04-2024, 06:59 AM
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The challenge with a "topper" is storage.
I had a queen Dormeo mattress topper (past tense) at home and you'll be startled by the bulk of it. Looks easy to transport but once it's off your front porch and out of the box you'll see how gigantic it gets! Not sure where I'd carry it in my Roo. Fit in the back of my Expedition with the 3d seat down.
It's all relative. Years of "real camping" -- sleeping on the ground under a poncho with, maybe, a pad or air mattress -- makes the heated Roo beds bliss. (Thumping my chest.)
Time for to review the Princess and the Pea fairy tale again? This is a floral display in Denmark so lacks many of the 20 mattresses and 20 feather beds.
-- Chuck
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08-04-2024, 09:13 AM
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I replaced our murphy bed mattress with an 8" foam mattress from Amazon. I thought I would have to figure out how to cut a partial score or "seam" for the murphy fold, but I didn't. The thing folds up fine without scoring it. Ours was a full-size queen, so it was easy to buy any residential mattress to fit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09JNTLFBD...t_details&th=1
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08-04-2024, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_S
The challenge with a "topper" is storage.
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I store my topper on the Trailer's bed on top of the mattress but covered by the sheets... rarely see it except for laundry days.
Never have to move it much either
did get a heavier stick to hold bed up.... when wanted something from under it
Never trust those air shock/lifts to hold bed up
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08-04-2024, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Mack
Thanks very much! I went with a Dormeo mattress topper, I'll get it in a week
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Chuck makes a pretty good point… For hybrid owners, we don’t have the luxury of leaving the topper on the mattresses when we fold up our bunk ends. In our case, we let the topper ride on the dinette, with the table in the collapsed position.
We went with an Allswell 4" Memory Foam Mattress Topper from Walmart (currently on clearance) - good prices and easy warranty/return policy.
Color me, a princess and the pea! After an absolute lifetime of camping in all sorts of conditions (former Eagle Scout, with more than his fair share of time on the ground) - and some initial disappointment over the stock mattresses in the trailer - The topper has made all the difference in the world to us. The trailer sleeps better than our mattress at home (of course that could probably have something to do with the fact that we’re camping, too).
Good luck, G.Mack! I hope the topper works out for you!
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08-04-2024, 11:30 AM
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Thanks everyone! I also have spent my fair share on the ground and small air matresses as an avid backcountryer, and time in the military. This RV purchase was for glamping and luxury. As for storage, I plan on putting it upright right by the front bunk and the slide, but we shall see when it arrives. My next issue is shaking, one child is a huge tosser at night and shakes the whole trailer awake. I've put a snap pad foot on the tounge jack, solid blocks for under the stabilizer jacks to reduce how far they have to travel, and recently added X-Chocks. Aside from making her sleep in the truck, I think I'm going to try the DIY 2x4 and ratchet strap method next.
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08-04-2024, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
I store my topper on the Trailer's bed on top of the mattress but covered by the sheets... rarely see it except for laundry days.
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The "Australian" 2022 Salem 24RLXL hybrid must be different than the Roos. No such room here.
-- Chuck
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08-04-2024, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Mack
Thanks everyone! I also have spent my fair share on the ground and small air matresses as an avid backcountryer, and time in the military. This RV purchase was for glamping and luxury. As for storage, I plan on putting it upright right by the front bunk and the slide, but we shall see when it arrives. My next issue is shaking, one child is a huge tosser at night and shakes the whole trailer awake. I've put a snap pad foot on the tounge jack, solid blocks for under the stabilizer jacks to reduce how far they have to travel, and recently added X-Chocks. Aside from making her sleep in the truck, I think I'm going to try the DIY 2x4 and ratchet strap method next.
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You bet! We’re in the same boat – glamping and luxury, plus a real return to being outdoors and able to fully enjoy it. I think that- for us - camping had become so involved with equipping, packing up, then filling the car that we started doing less and less of it. The brutal Midwest summers were a further nail in the coffin, leaving us to really desire air-conditioning while we were in the great outdoor (not to mention our own bathroom, and a full kitchen).
Moving us to the roo really got us back outside, and helped redefine our camping experience. All the pieces we liked, with luxury and comfort to boot.
Sounds like you’re well on your way to stabilizing your camper. The X-chocks help a **little** bit by locking the two axles together, but - as you have discovered - they are really just a Band-Aid solution. Stabilizing the braces is really the key. Minus moving to the arms (which is the gold standard), the 2x4 and ratchet straps are a good half step and I suggest will make a big difference over just the x-chocks alone.
Heads up: Take a good look at how your stabilizing jacks are currently attached to the frame (there is a surprising amount of variation between models on how this is done). Often they are tied onto L brackets adjacent to the frame (rather than the frame itself), building some mechanical bounce into the system that you will never really be able to solve for (unless you move the jacks to be under a vertical member of the frame, or weld in a small vertical member. Sorry if this is confusing, crawl under your trailer and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Plenty of posts on the topic, search is your friend!
Hope this helps. Just my .02.
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08-04-2024, 12:41 PM
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Hmm, yes I see they're not directly to the frame, the back is on a u shape bracket and the front on a flat one, lots of room for improvement there
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08-04-2024, 02:08 PM
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We upgraded with a Tochta mattress. My wife is a regular (as they call it) softness but I needed my side to be firm.
When we received it even though I chose a firmer foam fill my side was still a little softer than I preferred. I call Tochta and they shipped me (free) another foam pad for my side. Perfect now.
This is a foam mattress and we love it. Not cheap but we both sleep really well in RV. My DW says she sleeps better. Check them out..
https://www.tochta.com/?gad_source=1...4aAr6TEALw_wcB
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08-05-2024, 08:12 AM
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We have a 3" memory foam topper with a mattress pad. I'm able to fold up with the topper in place. Just barely. Tight fit, but it makes it.
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08-05-2024, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalford
We upgraded with a Tochta mattress. My wife is a regular (as they call it) softness but I needed my side to be firm.
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Did you get a hinged, custom, or standard?
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08-05-2024, 08:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimace73
Did you get a hinged, custom, or standard?
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I bought a custom. I just had the corner radius and the width and length added.
There are quite a few reviews on YouTube…
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08-05-2024, 09:57 AM
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I tried folding ot up with the topper, no luck, so it sits on the floor beside the front pop out and the slide
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08-05-2024, 10:15 AM
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PITA to handle once out of the box. Recommend you roll it fairly loosely and use some "cargo" straps to keep it rolled.
Get some of the giant "leaf trash bags" and put the topper inside them otherwise it'll get filthy on even the cleanest floor.
-- Chuck
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08-05-2024, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_S
PITA to handle once out of the box. Recommend you roll it fairly loosely and use some "cargo" straps to keep it rolled.
Get some of the giant "leaf trash bags" and put the topper inside them otherwise it'll get filthy on even the cleanest floor.
-- Chuck
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I unboxed mine in the bedroom. You are right once they unroll they are a pita.
The Tochta was rolled and vacuum packed, as I remember.
Just leave in the box until you get it on the bed..
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