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Old 06-17-2024, 01:14 AM   #1
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Model Year Changes

Hello,

We currently own a PUP (2007 Fleetwood Niagara) and are looking to upgrade to a hybrid. Weve settled on the Fleetwood Roo 233S.

Debating between buying new or used. Trying to compile a list of changes from say 2018-2024 and its been difficult to find. Can anyone point me to any resources that might have this info?

Any opinions on that decision on model years are welcome.

Thanks!
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Old 06-17-2024, 06:06 AM   #2
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The problem is changes can occur during any year without notice. The COVID years are probably the worst for changes not being documented as supply issues were frequent.

It also depends on what type of changes you are talking about.



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Old 06-17-2024, 06:30 AM   #3
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Most new campers now come with 12 volt refrigerators and solar panel for keeping battery's charged. Later RJD
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Old 06-17-2024, 08:04 AM   #4
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Roo 233S has been unchanged for years. Tentage on the Roos was loose until a few years ago when it became permanently fixed to the bed doors and is the only real structural change. Upholstery colors and decals don't count as real changes.

As noted manufacturers have started substituting cheaper 12v refrigerators which are fine if you always "camp" with shorepower. The earlier absorption type like your Fleetwood Niagara are much more versatile and don't require massive batteries and solar panels.

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other than addition of 12 V fridge and solar panels ( inadequate to power 12V fridge off-grid) there is NO substantial change to the ROO (or Shamrock) design since the mid 2015 era... price and owner maintenance will be the deciding factor... when buying used water damage to the bunk hinge area, delamination of the trailers sides ( bulging of the fiberglass) or below the bunks, and roof seals that have been sun damaged ( peeling) and need to be replaced is what to look for on used units plus any factory oversight should already be repaired on used
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"substantive changes" is the operative term. From 2018 to 2024, these changes are negligible, and you're likely better off looking at the condition of the trailer against its construction age.

Year-over-year changes are usually wrapped up by (1) what is included in the "standard package" for any given sales region and (2) iterative changes of support components. There have been a few in this six year period...

For instance, the Roo line was reduced to one exterior color (down from two) and one interior colorway (down from three/four) for COVID years and hasn't changed back. Prior to this, a 12-volt fridge was offered as an option to the two-way gas/electric fridge (packaged with a single 190w solar panel (with an optional second one), charge controller and 1,000w inverter). Similarly, the control panel with pump/tank heaters/electric water heater and interior lighting switches has changed a couple of times (as have the lights, from incandescent to LED, and the entertainment hub). The WiFi ranger also changed.

I'd suggest that one of the very biggest changes (that's the least apparent) was the switch to azdel walls, which I believe (but coule be mistaken over) stated in '19. You might look at the Roo line brochures for each year and see what's what.

Just my .02, I could be (and likely am) wrong..
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Roo brochures:

2018: https://library.rvusa.com/brochure/2...wood%20Roo.pdf
2019: https://www.forestriverinc.com/broch...TTbrochure.pdf
2020: https://www.forestriverinc.com/broch...TTbrochure.pdf
2021: https://www.forestriverinc.com/broch...TTbrochure.pdf
2022: https://www.forestriverinc.com/broch...TTbrochure.pdf
2023: https://www.forestriverinc.com/broch...TTbrochure.pdf
2024: https://library.rvusa.com/brochure/2...ckwood-Roo.pdf


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the switch to azdel walls, which I believe (but coule be mistaken over) stated in '19.
Welp, review shows that I was wrong - "Azdel" is first mentioned in the 2021 brochure. Sorry for any confusion. If you've got a specific question or concern, let us know and we can address it.

Hope this helps.
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As has already been mentioned, manufacturers are making changes throughout the model years. The 2 biggest changes I've seen are the change to the 120v refrigerator that runs through a 1000w inverter powered off the 12v batteries and the closing mechanism on the bunks that changed in the 2023 model year.
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As has already been mentioned, manufacturers are making changes throughout the model years. The 2 biggest changes I've seen are the change to the 120v refrigerator that runs through a 1000w inverter powered off the 12v batteries and the closing mechanism on the bunks that changed in the 2023 model year.

All the newer Roos I've seen, have 12v only fridges, not 120v AC fridges. The don't run off thee inverter.
Unless you're referring to those small dorm fridges in an outside compartment.
As far as I know, no Roo/Shamrock hybrid has ever had a main fridge that was 120v AC. They had 2-way fridges until around 2020, when the 12v only fridges started being the standard fridge.
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If you go to RV trader and look at pictures of the model years it's a good way to see changes from year to year for things that you CAN see. Color pallets, furniture material, etc. Little things like cabinets and drawers getting moved to different places.
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