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Old 11-25-2020, 08:50 AM   #1
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Never it would be this interesting to share things I have done to the trailer so here is one that will interest a few of you. I have had about all I can stand with leaking tent end I have used every suggestions I have read from the great folks on this site. I did remember seeing a post of a person that built covers rather than using pugs. Well I worked with a costume shop and have come up with covers that can be put up and the end doors can be opened or closed with them up. Due to covid I was not able to use them more than a couple time but the one time was during a severe weather event and the worked great. Well here is the reveal. Click image for larger version

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Old 11-25-2020, 08:59 AM   #2
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Looks good should help with heat in the summer also
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:09 AM   #3
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We had a pop up years ago. This would have been a great mod. Nice job.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:48 AM   #4
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that's a great looking solution.. Are you able to travel with them on or do you have to take off?
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Old 12-04-2020, 08:34 PM   #5
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that's a great looking solution.. Are you able to travel with them on or do you have to take off?


The end covers come off and the stainless steel frame folds up and it all stores inside. Can't wait to give it a good workout this coming year. So far it is stable in very heavy winds and rain and helps with heating and cooling. Not inexpensive but I was tired of the incurable tent leaks.
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Old 12-04-2020, 08:44 PM   #6
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That's really beautiful work.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:42 AM   #7
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I am curious as to the where the tent leaked... my canvas sides will allow water to soak thru the canvas if a pillow or blanket is pushed against it, but that is mitigated with liberal applications of a water repellant solution to the canvas 2 or 3 times a year... otherwise no other leaks in my tent ends, and I have 3 bunks.
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:33 PM   #8
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I am curious as to the where the tent leaked... my canvas sides will allow water to soak thru the canvas if a pillow or blanket is pushed against it, but that is mitigated with liberal applications of a water repellant solution to the canvas 2 or 3 times a year... otherwise no other leaks in my tent ends, and I have 3 bunks.


I have suffered with seam leaks since I purchased the trailer have done all the suggested ideas from dealer and forum and it still leaked so try major mod. As for the side canvas I usually put the reflect panels in which totally solve that. The plus side of the mod is on hot sunny days easier to cool and we have also found it to be warmer on cold nights. I had one other leak which ended up to be water tracking in through the screws that hold the end bunk on. Application of sealant has solved that.
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:14 PM   #9
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Very, very nice!!!
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OUTSTANDING ! I'm so irritated with my 2014 leaking but can't get my wife to give up on the tent ends. I'd love a set or step-by-step instructions.
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Old 12-06-2020, 09:04 AM   #11
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Noticed roll out canopies for the tent ends when I was in Australia a few years ago. These rolled out like the ubiquitous awnings on Roos and similar hybrids. Seemed common enough but I've seen nothing similar here.

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OUTSTANDING ! I'm so irritated with my 2014 leaking but can't get my wife to give up on the tent ends. I'd love a set or step-by-step instructions.
Buy a set of pop up gizmos, I recommend the high wind version with bungees built in. I have my permanently attached to my bunks. Once the bunks are deployed it only takes 30 seconds to attaché the bungees under the bunk
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Old 12-06-2020, 12:47 PM   #13
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@Keystoner just where are your tents leaking? I had leaks around the clearance lights which were easily caulked. No other problems with my '06 which I bought in 2005.

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Mine stays dry when closed up. The leaks are beads coming through the fabric and stitching, outside corners where it mounts to the door. Surface tension brings it up under the flap that covers the hinge. The tents were replaced when under warranty and after "conditioning" it still seeps in. Just enough to make puddles and the mattress wet. I've have treated the fabric with repellant spray and taped the corners but haven't been in a sufficient rain for a good test. We put a plastic sheet under the mattress and over towel "noodles". My former Coleman popup never has an issue so I've considered getting tents ends made using Sunbrella fabric but at this point I'd sooner get a new unit.
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The leaks are beads coming through the fabric and stitching, outside corners where it mounts to the door. Surface tension brings it up under the flap that covers the hinge.
I am sorry to hear of your tent leakage problems...

are the tent ends somewhat tight so water rolls off, or are they loose so that rain water collects on the tent ends?

can I ask what year and model you have?

my '14 Shamrock has 3 bunks and all are made from vinyl material ( except for the two sides which are cotton canvas) water rolls off the vinyl... I do use
303 UV guard which helps protect the vinyl...

The threads have never leaked, but I would think either rubbing a soft candle or a white crayon on the threads would help seal the thread holes.

Are you sure you just do not have condensation on the inside of the tent??? Condensation is a common problem in hybrids. The cool outside air will condense moisture expired from YOUR breath on the vinyl tent material if it gets down to 60 outside. Moving air inside the trailer with a 20 inch box fan will help that problem.

I would be curious to see how surface tension would bring water up thru the hinge and past the vinyl protective layer. Again are you sure it is not water vapor condensation from your body condensing on the cooler lower bunk door? Most everyone insulates the door panel with a wool blanket or a piece of thin insulation between the door and mattress. Personally I use the heated mattress on low and that seems to also work by keeping the bunk door warm.

I hope you consider these remarks as constructive to help remedy your situation.
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Roo/Shamrock tents are made from waterproof coated fabric, water ain't coming thru them unless there are holes. The main issue with them is condensation because unlike Sunbrella they don't breathe. Be sure condensation isn't the issue. Seams should self seal when the threads swell and close the needle holes but seam sealer is available "everywhere" and is easy to apply.

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Mine is a '14 purchased fall of '13. I've been through all the suggestions and no it is not condensation. I have watched the beads come through the sides and stiching while the ceiling stays dry. As to the surface tension, when the bunk is open water doesn't have to come through the hinge. If you look from the side when open there is a sizable space above the hinge. It runs down the canvas sides and enough "sticks" that turns the corner - so to speak. When climbing into a bunk there is a piece of the vinyl fabric/canvas/naugahyde (whatever one wants to call it) that spans the gap above the hinge. The way the tents attach to the wall is almost funnel like and increases the amount of water that runs down the side most especially during heavy rains. No matter what these tents are made of water came through the original tents and it comes through the replacements. I had this hybrid long enough to know.

I wasn't trying to hijack the OP. I just really like his mod. Rather than pugs the awning creates better protection at the wall, shade, and an airgap.

And yes I use 303, eternabond, and Tear-Aid. I have also found that Super Slick Stuff does an excellent job for my slide system.
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