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07-19-2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by prof_fate
Acceleration getting on the hiway, passing, going up hills, keeping up with traffic - IMO it's not safe to be a 'rolling road block' with everyone trying to pass you.
And if you have more power you won't be using 'all' of it just to get down the road - so less wear and tear on the engine/drivetrain, less tiring on the driver (which means a safer driver).
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So using your scenario, 99.9% of semi's are "rolling road blocks" that everyone is trying to pass and they need more power and are unsafe. (using your logic)
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07-19-2014, 08:07 PM
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I have to agree with OldCoot... I don't accelerate quickly in an effort to save gas but I also do not merge into traffic dangerously slow. When you are driving a bigger rig, everyone can see you and no one is purposefully going to hit you. The biggest problem, like driving semis & buses, is people cutting you off when you are accelerating down hill. This is why having adequate BRAKING & CONTROL is important and why I feel 1/2 ton trucks should not be pushed near their max....
EDIT: The cause of many semi jackknifes are due to a car cutting-off the semi & then quickly dropping in speed. The larger vehicle cannot stop as quickly & if the trailer brakes are too weak the tail swings-around, etc. as the semi driver attempts to avoid killing the guy who cut him off... This can also happen in rain & ice when stopping quickly...
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07-19-2014, 08:23 PM
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come drive in western pa and WV. Semi's can and do 70mph no problem. But entrance ramps to the hiways are often short and just as often, uphill.
So you gotta get from 30 to 60ish in a short distance - traffic MAY move over for a big rig..but some rich guy on vacation with his camper? Heck no.
I've seen slow vehicles frustrate other drivers - to the point they'll pass illegally over the double yellow or even the burm of the hiway - so yes, being 'too slow' IS a hazard to yourself in some instances.
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07-19-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by prof_fate
...I've seen slow vehicles frustrate other drivers - to the point they'll pass illegally over the double yellow or even the burm of the hiway - so yes, being 'too slow' IS a hazard to yourself in some instances.
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Well, bottom line, I have no control over other people's frustration and if they are unfortunate enough to hit me, it will be theirs and their insurance company's problem, as for them passing illegally, the state police can deal with that and see how that affects their frustration level. They will have to do what I do when I drive a car and encounter a slow moving rv or semi, either pass them or relax and follow them. Life is a constant challenge in many ways.
prof_fate, you just need to relax and enjoy the ride, none of us are going to get out of here alive.
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07-20-2014, 05:22 AM
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well, when I was passed the cops were no where to be found. (on the left berm on the pa turnpike - TT in the right lane beside me - I had no place to go had dipcrap not fit or hit something in the berm, etc). Had I swerved and hit the TT the cause would be far down the road and I"d be paying the price.
And how considerate of you to make your not being able to keep up with traffic 'their problem' to deal with.
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07-20-2014, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by prof_fate
well, when I was passed the cops were no where to be found. (on the left berm on the pa turnpike - TT in the right lane beside me - I had no place to go had dipcrap not fit or hit something in the berm, etc). Had I swerved and hit the TT the cause would be far down the road and I"d be paying the price.
And how considerate of you to make your not being able to keep up with traffic 'their problem' to deal with.
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I keep up with the flow of traffic, I just don't go over 65mph, regardless of the speed limit. I travel between 55-65 depending on traffic. I just can't control other people's level of frustration if they want to accelerate faster or travel at a higher speed. I do my best to be considerate, but that's all I can do.
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07-20-2014, 07:38 AM
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We tow ours with a 2007 honda ridgeline with sway bars and a brake controller. Ridgeline is rated for 5000 pounds. Does great!
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07-21-2014, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kim_m
It is a truck we are looking at buying. Attachment 58075
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dont trust the mpg sticker. I have never seen 24mpg. the best i see is 19 mpg or 9mpg towing. the last 2 trips towing i have only avg around 8.6 towing. I have the 2013 5.7L with 3.92 and dont have a heavy foot.
The truck tows my mini lite without any issues.
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07-21-2014, 10:56 AM
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Going with the Hemi Ram will allow you to upsize to a larger trailer (mid 20s fully enclosed). You might even look at them now. Heck, my '14 Wildwood 261BHXL was over $1K less than my '08 Trail Cruiser C191 Hybrid. I blame that purchase on my Tundra (replaced my Dakota). Truck's fault.
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07-22-2014, 10:01 AM
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I just purchased a 1500 with the new EcoDiesel and I get 27+ on the highway doing 70+ without the trailer and 15+ towing my roo 21ss.
It's a pricy option, but pays for itself quickly.
It's only available in the Crew Cab or Quad cab. I was able to get $9,500 off sticker on a Crew Laramie, so shop around.
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07-22-2014, 10:15 PM
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All the tradesmen do have the tow package. Comes standard. We did not buy it. We bought a Nissan Titan v8. Got a much better deal and more for trade in. It is used as well. We can't afford a new truck and I am not sure I want to try.
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07-22-2014, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Roocrew1
Has anyone been towing with an expedition EL? I'm looking at one to replace my current 2002 F150 super crew. I currently have a 3:55 ratio, and was looking to go with a 3:73 in an EL. I'm currently looking at 2007 or 2008 models.
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I can't speak for the 07 and 08 model but the 2013 that I have is great. What would you like to know?
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07-23-2014, 09:27 AM
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Yep. We went to an RV show and chose our TT because it was less costly than a hybrid, which is what we went to buy.
That then forced us into a bigger TV.
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Originally Posted by JohnIII
Going with the Hemi Ram will allow you to upsize to a larger trailer (mid 20s fully enclosed). You might even look at them now. Heck, my '14 Wildwood 261BHXL was over $1K less than my '08 Trail Cruiser C191 Hybrid. I blame that purchase on my Tundra (replaced my Dakota). Truck's fault.
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07-25-2014, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kho6658
I can't speak for the 07 and 08 model but the 2013 that I have is great. What would you like to know?
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I would like to know a couple different things. What has your average mpg been while towing? With the newer 6 speed trans, do you pull with overdrive on or off? Primarily, I'm also looking at this vehicle so my family of 5 has an enjoyable trip when traveling longer distances. My supercrew gets a little small in the cab after 3 or 4 hours on the road.
To note, your answer above stating that it is "great" does answer my question.
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07-25-2014, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roocrew1
I would like to know a couple different things. What has your average mpg been while towing? With the newer 6 speed trans, do you pull with overdrive on or off? Primarily, I'm also looking at this vehicle so my family of 5 has an enjoyable trip when traveling longer distances. My supercrew gets a little small in the cab after 3 or 4 hours on the road.
To note, your answer above stating that it is "great" does answer my question.
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Two weeks ago we took our longest trip from Texas to Florida 1969 miles. 9.9 going and 8.9 coming home. Cruise set at 65. I pull with overdrive on and tow-haul on. It is a very comfortable drive. When we returned from Florida, we spent one night at home and then took off and went camping that weekend. I picked up ghe camper last night for another weekend trip. We have to get all our trips in during summer when the kids dont have sports every weekend.
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07-25-2014, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roocrew1
I would like to know a couple different things. What has your average mpg been while towing?
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if you're towing with a gasser, won't matter much what speeds your trans has.
nearly all gassers will get mpg in the 8-12 range, depending on wind and hills/mountains.
it's the air resistance of the front of the trailer that's the big factor on gas mileage.
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