Anyone tow a fifth wheel with a f-150??

TRAVLINOHIO · 05-30-2012, 08:21 PM

Looking at a keystone cougar x-lite 28 sgs. Anyone have a similar set up?

TURBS · 05-30-2012, 08:53 PM

10,000 gvw hmmmm
7574 dry
2426 ccc

specs on truck ?

TRAVLINOHIO · 05-30-2012, 09:02 PM

2010 f-150. 4x4, hd tow package, extended cab. 9700 towing capacity

TURBS · 05-30-2012, 09:05 PM

someone will be around to run the numbers but just glancing it will be on the edge imo.

whats your trucks ccc ?

pin weight on this unit is 1410

DonG · 05-30-2012, 10:24 PM

Ecoboost yes, otherwise you are on the edge.
For short distances, you would probably be ok.
But definitely not a preferred setup.

TRAVLINOHIO · 05-31-2012, 06:44 AM

gcwr #15100, max trailer weight is #9400

Rsgtivr6 · 05-31-2012, 07:19 AM

So roughly 5400 curb on truck (not too off the wall guess but we don't have much to go by and 15100 GCVW minus 9700 max tow = 5400 left for truck @ curb minimum) and 8300 in the 5er with avg loading puts you at 13700. Fully loaded 5er with *empty* truck (just you and gas) at 14800. that doesn't include accessories, hitch, more people, etc

DonG · 05-31-2012, 07:38 AM

TRAVELINOHIO, you do have the 5.4 we are assuming?

TRAVLINOHIO · 05-31-2012, 07:55 AM

No, I have the 4.6 3v 3.73 gear Sticker says gvwr is #7000, Trailer rating is #9400, gcwr is #15,100. I am towing a 30kqbss now, and it weighs more than the fifth wheel, am I over loaded now? The only issue I have now is it is swaying of the trailer even with the equilizer WDH.

dretired · 05-31-2012, 08:05 AM

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TRAVLINOHIO · 05-31-2012, 08:15 AM

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What is the weight of your trailer?

DonG · 05-31-2012, 08:17 AM

Then I wouldn't recommend it. Not only will you be over-loading the truck, you will be over-loading your engine. With a 1410 lb dry hitch weight, you will exceed your truck's GVWR. And don't forget about the extra height and wind resistance of the fifth wheel.
Maybe just get a better anti-sway hitch?
Sorry, that is a nice camper!

Rsgtivr6 · 05-31-2012, 10:11 AM

How does the engine feel and perform with what you have now? I know my 345hp Hemi gives a little fight with a 6000lb load. At best you have like 292? Just curious since you said your current TT is heavier than the 5er.

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With a 1410 lb dry hitch weight, you will exceed your truck's GVWR.

figure loaded with standard gear and water, you would be around the low 8000's. So, at 7500 roughly dry, you have 1400 king pin weight. That's 18.7% of trailer weight on pin. At 8000 with same distribution, you will have about 1500 or possibly more depending on how you load (most 5er cargo is in the front of the trailer). 5400 curb+1500 pin=6900 truck weight. That doesn't give you much room, especially if you don't weigh the curb estimated 150lbs or you have a passenger. Toss in 100 lbs of accessories and hitch and you are already at max cap.

Rsgtivr6 · 05-31-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TRAVLINOHIO

No, I have the 4.6 3v 3.73 gear Sticker says gvwr is #7000, Trailer rating is #9400, gcwr is #15,100. I am towing a 30kqbss now, and it weighs more than the fifth wheel, am I over loaded now? The only issue I have now is it is swaying of the trailer even with the equilizer WDH.

So the (I am assuming) Salem 30KQBSS is (according to Forestriverinc.com) about 6900 lbs dry and 900lbs tongue weight. Conservative loading puts you at, lets say 7600 (no water, just the basics). So I am not sure how this is a heavier trailer from the start, but yes it does have a higher GVWR at 11k. Do you load 2 tons worth of weight? If so, you will max out that 5er pretty fast and be over limit anyways...

DonG · 05-31-2012, 10:28 AM

Besides, why are you looking at a Cougar?
Rockwood/Flagstaff have the same floorplan.

BigB10774 · 05-31-2012, 10:30 AM

Wow, I have the same truck and wouldn't dream of trying to tow anything that big. How does it tow? What's the weight and what modifications to the truck were necessary? Air bags, springs, etc. I'm very curious.

Thanks

dretired · 05-31-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TRAVLINOHIO

What is the weight of your trailer?

7,700 lbs dry...

dretired · 05-31-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB10774

Wow, I have the same truck and wouldn't dream of trying to tow anything that big. How does it tow? What's the weight and what modifications to the truck were necessary? Air bags, springs, etc. I'm very curious.

Thanks

i am not sure ..but.. if you were asking me...??? It tows fine ( went from Michigan to St.Augustine ,Florida.. and back... this last winter)..i added 2 leaf springs to the truck...Its a 2010 F150 supercab 6 1/2 foot box..I added the towing mirrors.. it has a 5.4 engine ..rated to tow 9,800 lbs...either TT or 5th wheel..

Derekcan · 05-31-2012, 05:24 PM

I felt it was necessary to upgrade my TV from an F150 to F250 for safety. After all, the F150 is a 1/2 ton and the pin weight of a 5er is more than 1000 lbs without counting the hitch weight in the bed.

The 150 can pull it, but for how long until your transmission gives up is the gamble you have.

dretired · 05-31-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Derekcan

I felt it was necessary to upgrade my TV from an F150 to F250 for safety. After all, the F150 is a 1/2 ton and the pin weight of a 5er is more than 1000 lbs without counting the hitch weight in the bed.

The 150 can pull it, but for how long until your transmission gives up is the gamble you have.

A F150 today..properly equipped... can have a payload capacity of up to 3,000 lbs,...and can also tow up to 11,300 lbs ..either TT or 5th wheel..so...yes a bare bones F150 could be around 1,000 lbs payload.. but some can handle up to 3x as much..

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